Oil Catch Can, Eliminate that knock!

what catch can did you buy exactly? were the hose connectors included?

BION

 

Yes, but the question was, "Why doesn't Toyota include an OCC?" I think the answer is maintenance. They went to 10,000 mi OCI because it's good enough to reach the 60,000 mile warranty. They went to lifetime tranny oil because it's good enough to reach the 60K warranty. Yes, there are definitely technology improvements which reduce maintenance needs, but I think it's all intended to meet the 36,000 and 60,000 mile warranties and it's your problem after that.

So I change my oil every 5K and I've changed my tranny oil twice and lubricated my brake pins and changed my engine coolant ahead of schedule. And now that I know about this PCV problem, I'll very likely install an OCC.

To err is human. To ignore good advice is just plain stupid

 

I know Toyota did #2 with the Gen 4 Prius.

I believe what danlatu is trying to tell us is: it's the combination of the oil in the PCV from blow-by and the soot from the EGR combined. I agree with you that oil alone may not be a bad thing for an engine. It seems that it's the mixture of oil, gasoline, water, and soot that glues up an engine. It's like mixing concrete and water to make bricks, or fat and cholesterol forming plaque (atherosclerosis) in arteries.

Its a culmination of a few things feeding on each other and exacerbating the problems in the engine. The engineering term used to describe this is positive feedback. Without proper maintenance it's basically a bomb with a long fuse.

Most people don't experience the end of their engine because they don't drive their car long enough. These engines have precision parts and tolerances. The gunk will open up and loosen these tolerances. Some of us enjoy a smooth running machine that is less noisy, leaky and with optimal fuel economy and will do extra maintenance to obtain it.

 

I noticed pool of oil in the bottom of my Prius battery when it was brand new. Catch cans release a lot of pollution and if u live in state with inspections you will fail inspection with one.

 

You have answered all of my suspected questions regarding Ford. I thought I was the only who one felt that their cars break down too early and too often! And yes, my Ford always wound up sitting a day or two longer at the dealer due a "part issue". My transmissions in Fords always slipped. Fuel injection malfunctioned. Main computer would burn out (cheap circuit boards would warp due to heat..........really?), etc. And any and all of the so called "sensors" throughout the car would go out at 10k, 20k and 30k miles. Two issues that made me turn from Ford forever: One was when my car broke down when I was on my way to LA to pick up relatives and return home to celebrate my daughters birthday. Computer shut down and would not let car start. The other was on my wedding anniversary and we had been gifted tickets to the Hollywood Bowl. Never made it there. Spent 2 hours stuck in traffic listening to horns honking at us. Tow truck towed us back home. Yeah, a real winner for the wife!!

 

"One of the reason Ford has done so well for so years and did not need a bail out is because there equipments breaks down frequently. Ford generates money from internal financing, equipment failure, brand loyalty etc. Ford spends more money in advertising and uses the consumer as the guinea pig to test out there products. Ever wonder why they discontinue so many engine's, transmissions etc. Not to mention mid year changes."

Totally agree!!

 

No comparison between Toyota reliability and Ford reliability. I still have my Prius 10 years later because
It runs great and has not pissed me off. But when my Crown Vic P71 does some stupid stuff I am not surprised. But I get it fixed because I like the car. But it's a Ford so you tend to wonder when is it going to blow up.

 

I have to say I respect your opinion Danlatu because of your knowledge of engines. You command our respect of your opinions because you back it up with fact, not emotions. I cannot thank you enough for explanations regarding why things clog, break, etc.

 

Lots of talk about aftermarket catch cans on the new C7 Corvette. They get messy when you lean on them hard and need proper venting.
Corvette forum.

 

Google corvette c7 oil catch can

 

Dan,
That OCC you linked is vented. Is that the one you bought? Can you seal off the vent?

 

there's one without the breather

 

I agree with the idea of the OCC. Well... I'll look at my PCV hoses when I disassemble and see if they are oily. But I did observe the oil in my throttle body when last checked, and I assume this is from the PCV.
All I meant was, if you see oil in the throttle body (and you definitely will), it doesn't mean that your Prius needs repair. There is apparently a solution, but the oil is how the car is made and it happens to all of them.
Time will soon tell as more of is install these and observe whether the throttle body oil buildup stops.

 

I guess "airplane" style clamps are ok with steel spigots? The spring steel ones (like OEM) are maybe hard to find, in particular the right size?

So you basically splice this in, in "series", on the hose connected to the PCV valve? And position it to be accessible, for dumping, without need to disconnect?

Why braided clear plastic tubing, as opposed to black rubber vacuum lines? To more easily monitor? Oil will break the latter down?