OEM spare tire install

I know this is contentious, and I'm a broken record, but you guys are just empowering Toyota in the their quest for new ways to screw customers.

 

I get what you are saying but I also have to take care of myself. I don’t have anyone else to rely on.

I especially agree regarding subscriptions. Money is power. If Toyota car owners refused to pay for subscriptions, the subscription service would fail.

 

Prius is not the only car for sale.

 

Yes but I’m not looking for a car that gets mpg in mid 30’s or a Kia or an EV.

 

mendel, no one can resist the borg

 

I was surprised to learn the gen5 Prius now uses a new (for prius) bolt pattern of 5x114.3 instead of its previously typical 5x100 bolt pattern. My 06 Civic Hybrid and many other honda models also use the 5x114.3 bolt pattern and my Civic Spare and tools looks at a glance very similar to the Prius V;s spare shown in the video linked on page 1 by @Downrange here OEM spare tire install | PriusChat
I noticed that there was no info on the wheel lug size and if the wrench in the V's toolket fits the wheel lugs used on the Gen5 Prius.
It would be easy enough to make sure and or transfer the wrench form the Gen5 kit to the styrofoam kit holder from the V. But it sure would be a bummer if the wrench from the V's toolkit doesn't fit the lugs on the Gen5, if the tire ever needed to be replaced by the spare.

 

this the referenced wheel and tire suitable forma spare on the awd 19’’ wheel bolt pattern?

 

Well in case anyone is wondering, it appears you still cannot get the parts. I placed an order and received the following:

“
Hello,

Thank you for your order. Please note, part numbers 64997-47100, 64995-47080, 64778-47090 and 51978-47010 are all currently not available through Toyota for sale. They may become available later down the road, however, at this time Toyota will not allow us to order these parts. Also, part number 51931-10040 for the wheel carrier is currently on national backorder without an ETA of release.

We can proceed with your order for the three parts that Toyota will allow us to procure, including the backordered part and adjust your order accordingly. Please let us know how you would like to proceed or if there are any questions or concerns.”

 

I want to post a note here with a useful link but I'm too new, I can't do it till I've made 4 posts. So this is number 4. Next one (below) should work...hopefully. Oh wait, I have to wait for a moderator to approve this post.

 

Check out this video on youtube for the straight dope on putting a spare in your 2023 Prius.

I just got an LE and this pretty much clears it up. The one thing I think could be done that would be really helpful would be to just cut a tire-size circle out of the styrofoam, leaving the four sides intact to support the floor piece. If that leaves a tiny dip right over the tire it should be easy to just get a little piece of foam to make it flush. Note: There's a screw-in hole for the little thing that screws in and holds it all in place, but the actual screw-in bolt isn't in the car, you have to get it with the rest of the stuff. You can find the tires, wheels, and jack kits on ebay sometimes, but personally I'm planning on searching junkyards (by phone) till I can find one with all the parts like he's got in that video.

You'll notice that he specifies it's for a 114.3 mm lug bolt pattern. Yet I've found tires that claim to fit the Prius V that say they're 115. It would seem that 0.7mm wouldn't be an issue with a spare tire, and there are those who say it's no issue. But others claim that it is important and that even that small variance could put undue stress on the lug bolts or even cause them to snap off. I suspect that's an exaggeration and that the tolerances for wheels would be fine with either.

The 5 x 114.3 (the same as a 5 x 4.5) is a very common wheel size, used on Camry, Rav 4, and several species of Hyundai, Nissan, Honda, Infiniti, Ford, etc. So it shouldn't be too hard to find one with the whole jack kit that fits inside it at a junkyard. I'll update here, with pics, after I get mine sorted out.

 

I’ve watched part of this video. He takes the foam pieces out so easily. I tried lifting one and they didn’t budge.

 

More like one inch, the difference in diameter. Still significant though.

Reference from Owner's Manuals, 5th gen Prius:




And Prius v:





Tire Size Comparison

 

Hmm, I compared the stock tires for both, assuming the temp spare would be close in diameter to those. Apparently not the case for the Prius v. In fact there's a big difference; which is puzzling: you'd think it would upset traction control.

Prius v stock 16" tire, and temp spare comparison (from above linked site):



I wonder if there's even a typo in the Owner's Manual, regarding the Prius v temp spare size?

 

Thanks for that tire size comparison visualizer. The space for a spare in the LE is just too tight for a spare. I don't think any will fit, certainly not like in the youtube video I'd suggested earlier, which it turns out was a LTD trim. It would have been nice if the guy would have mentioned that in that video and saved us LE owners the hassle.

 

What about the Owners Manual’s “were equipped” description of a temp spare. Pretty sure the sheet metal is the the same worldwide.

 

In other words, to do a factory-like spare install, it takes a boatload of parts replaced, into four figures, before even getting ‘round to the spare itself.