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  1. neon tetra

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    Shhhh... these sheep don't like to hear the truth.

    Jus' tell 'em we're fightin' 'em over there so we dun gotta fight 'em over here!

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    canesfan Culture shocked...

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    More quotes for ya...

    "There's no secret weapon for our country but to get hard! To get in there and fight. Our country won't go on forever if we stay as soft as we are now. There won't be any America because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a harder race."

    -Chesty Puller
     
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    That quote has zero relevance today.

    We have by far the world's strongest military.

    No one could ever take over America in a military sense.


    However, it has already been taken over & most people don't even realize it.

    We've slowly been bled dry by our own greed and corruption & sold to the highest bidder.
     
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    canesfan Culture shocked...

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    Outstanding!
     
  5. thelemite

    thelemite Right Wing Gun Nut

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    So its understandable for a country that is downtrodden to kill 6.5 million Jews? They were they pushed into making people into soap? Allied oppression caused Nazi sterilization programs?

    The war was precipitated economically by the sanctions placed on the Weimar. It was also started by an Austrian madman that built good roads and killed a lot of Jews, gays, and gypsies.

    Criminal behavior is not excusable by poverty at a personal or governmental level.

    Killing Hitler would have been a good thing even if innocents died with him.

    I am not talking about other atrocities commited by other nations for now.








     
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    I also assert that the world is a better place with Saddam out of it.
     
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    Because of blind ignorance and allowance of incompetence in our political system, the US is being bled dry financially on ill-conceived, ill-planned and no accomplishment campaigns. Our political and military elite are setting the country up to be another ROME, campaign after campaign, expenditure after expenditure, with nothing to show for it.

    We haven't accomplished anything in Afghanistan, we haven't accomplished anything in Iraq, we haven't captured Osama, we haven't finished Al Qaeda, our politicians and military elite have opened Pandora's Box after Pandora's Box, WITHOUT any thought on ever closing them. Its all a never ending plan to help raise the price of oil and to increase spending on military, contractors and equipment, at the expense of the future of America.

    Oh, and another backdoor to our destruction is right at our borders, the country will be changed from within, by a new wave of immigrants, this time illegal and otherwise, brought in by politicians and encouraged by politicians.
     
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    Your assertion would be incorrect, but thats status quo for many supporters who don't study history, or understand consequences.
     
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    Yeah, that Saddam, he was a real swell guy... Life o' the party!
     
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    I both study history and understand consequences.

    What exactly am I supporter of? Bush? Not in years. I voted for him because the Dems ran people that made me want to vomit. The war? I would rather the US not be involved in most foreign actions.

    I do support the men and women in uniform on the ground however.


    For the record I do not think the current actions in Iraq are warranted. There should have been a prompt exit strategy post regime change.

    Iraq needs a revolution. We need to turn over the keys and let it happen.

     
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    Saddam was a cork on Iran, that was the only good thing he was good for, we have opened the door to a Shiite powerhouse, Iraq/Iran, that part was known, the consequences were known, in 1994, all we have done in Iraq is allow for the joining of Iraq/Iran, and their power will be oil.

    Why was all this known, but ignored?
    [ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY]YouTube - Cheney in 1994 on Iraq[/ame]
     
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    Saddam and his sons were boils on the nice person of the world. Ask a Kurd how they feel about them.

    Iran/ Iraq are going to be a continuing economic problem for us. We are addicted to foreign oil. Money needs to be spent aggressively to lower this dependence. If you or anyone has a plan for this, I (really) want to know.
     
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    How can you say you're not a Bush supporter when you voted for him?

    And BTW, saying "I don't support the war, but I do support the troops" is equally as silly as saying "I don't support rape, but I do support rapists".


    I don't support what the troops are doing. Not at all. What they're doing would be called terrorism if it was another country doing it.
    And our military has certainly killed more people than any of the so-called 'terrorists' we're supposedly going after.
    Somehow that little fact gets overlooked my most Americans.

    Over a million in this war alone, well over half a million from the sanctions on Iraq before this latest invasion, countless more in the last gulf war.
    But it's ok, because it's not terrorism when we do it. ;)


    GOD BLESS OUR HEROES OVER THERE!!


    KILLING THEM THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KILL THEM HERE!!

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    Very true, go ask over TWO MILLION dead North Koreans why we support KJI .

    The Kurds are hated and attacked by Turkey, yet we support Turkey, the Kurds were Mustard Gassed by Britain and Saddam, yet we supported and support them.

    If the logic is getting rid of bad people, we are doing a lousy job, even in Darfur, we ignore that situation, and that is genocide to the extreme, yet we are being nice guys to Sudan.

    So is this better?
    Due to US pressure on the UN on Iraq, Oil for Food Sanctions are blamed for approximately 500,000 Iraqi deaths.

    Documented Iraqi deaths since the US invasion is approximately 90,000 to 100,000.

    More than 4.5 million Iraqis — a fifth of the population — have been displaced inside and outside their country due to the sectarian policies of the occupation and the governments it has installed since the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    Number of Kurds killed by Saddam estimated to be 100,000
     
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    I voted for what I saw as the best choice for my at the time. I participated in the general election by voting for the best choice I had.

    I do not agree with Bush on many fronts, but my views on a lot of things were not going to be supported by Gore or Kerry.

    In the last primary I voted for Ron Paul.

    Your analogy is reprehensible btw.

    You will get no arguement from me that Iraq is something the US needs to extricate itself from.

    But I continue to support those in uniform in general. You will not change my mind about this by calling them criminals, or listing the casualties in Iraq.

    You can feel free to call them what you wish, with me you are wasting your time.

    If you feel the leadership is wrong, I tend to agree.
     
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    You think you know it all huh? You think Iraq is bad now? You wait until all of these terrorists pop up all over. Your gonna be suprised. Just watch.

    The truth is right in front of Americans faces but all they want to do is blame our president for acting upon the situation. We invaded and we had a job to do. Don't blame the president. Your supposed to stand by him and the rest of the USA. Unless your Alec Baldwin and say your leaving the country if bush became president and then never to leave.

    Another problem is we are advancing in Iraq but people tend to listen to the media too much. Media always reports bad news because bad news sells.

    People think they got it so damned bad in the US it makes me sick.
    You got a job, Your nice person is protect by the thousands of Soldiers to keep you safe from militant extremists. You have food on your table every day of the week. Your house catches fire the local fore dept shows up with 5 minutes to douse the flames.

    Heck, I bet you can't even thank a Soldier for all the work he's done to keep you free.

    People over there in Iraq are damned happy that we are there because of all the help we have given them.

    Yeah, War does suck but sometimes it's got to be done. Infact, My good friend was part of the 2003 invasion. He was put in charge over there on some transportation jobs. he saw oil pipes and that was to repair what the terrorists damaged to save the Iraqi goverment from downfall.

    I'll give you a nice tour of all the operations if you would like.
     
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    So we got attacked on Sept 11th what is your answer on what we should have done? Let them do it? **** NO.

    This is the USA and we put up a clear message. Don't **** with us.

    You want somebody to blame? Blame Clinton/Gore while they were sitting there in office getting a blowjob from some fat nice person intern.
     
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    If you are saying that if we are attacked, we will attack innocents, thats pretty sad. Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11, so stop that BS now.

    We showed absolutely no ability to get revenge for 9/11, the leader of the group that attacked us, is still alive, still the figurehead of the group, still recognized by many fanatical muslims as a hero, kids play with toys of him and of the WTC being blown up. Al Qaeda is just as strong, just as organized as before 9/11, they and other terrorists gain lots of money with drugs grown under Afghanistan US occupation.

    We have shown the same stupidity that Reagan did after the Marine barracks were bombed in Beruit, throw a few shells into the empty hills and teach them a lesson.

    So the next time we are attacked, and there will be a next time, if we find what country or group attacked us, we should attack Canada or Mexico instead?

    And in no way am I calling our troops criminals, they are just doing the job our current elected criminals order them to. Most of the killing is collateral damage and not the fault of our troops in Iraq, but I can guarantee you, most Iraqis will blame the US.
     
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    And what job was that, precisely? Looking for imaginary WMD's? Torturing Arabic speaking people that we literally bought from warlords? Killing over a million people? Completely de-stabilizing an entire region & destroying it's infastructure? Forcing all of the middle-class people to flee? Causing mass looting, gang rule, and multiple civil wars?

    Yup! Great job we did!! GO TROOPS!!

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    Nah, I'll blame Spongebob. He must be the real culprit, not the Commander in Chief. :loco:



    No matter what?
    Sorry pal, that's not how America works. That's how a dictatorship works. Go read our founding documents. :nono:



    Oh please. The news from this so-called war, especially in this country, is completely watered down. Funerals aren't shown, bodies aren't shown, most of the destruction isn't shown, most negative stories get little coverage if any, etc.
    That's all thanks to 'embedded journalism'.
    Independent journalists... well, they don't seem to last very long there.



    I can. But none of them are fighting now. No American soldiers are fighting to 'keep me free' right now. And if you honestly believe otherwise, you should seek mental help.



    Indeed. But that isn't the case right now.



    Technically, we did let them do it. Even if you think that 9/11 was a surprise attack, the Air Force was told to stand down.

    Regardless....and maybe this is news to you....but Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
    Not quite sure why you mentioned it.



    Yea, that makes sense. I'll blame my mailman for the Holocaust too while I'm at it.




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    A little dated, but it seems to fit here.

    My Apology To The Arab World

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    [FONT=helvetica,arial,sans-serif]Mike S. Adams
    June 14, 2004

    Author's Note: the following editorial contains mildly offensive language. Given the subject matter, the author is sorry that it does not contain highly offensive language.
    Lately, I've been hearing a lot about the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal. The pictures of those "abused" prisoners have been plastered all over the front pages of papers around the country. Some of my conservative friends have interpreted the excessive coverage as proof that papers like the New York Times are actually rooting against America in its current war on terror. Even those who aren't willing to go that far say that such coverage is helping the enemy to recruit a new generation of terrorists to inflict harm upon our troops.
    Despite these views, I have decided to make a formal public apology to the entire Arab world in the aftermath of Abu Ghraib. It is my hope that the following apology will help bring some clarity to the situation and, who knows, maybe even lasting world peace:
    Dear Arabs,
    I am truly sorry that Americans decided to take up arms and sacrifice their own youth in the defense of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, and the first Gulf War. After we clear up this mess in Iraq, we will refrain from any such activity in the future.
    I am truly sorry that I did not hear any of you call for an apology from Muslim extremists after 911. After all, the hijackers were all Arabs.

    I am truly sorry that Arabs have to live in squalor under savage dictatorships throughout the Middle East. I am also sorry that the "leaders" of these nations drive their citizens into poverty by keeping all of the wealth in the hands of a select few.

    I am also sorry that these governments intentionally breed hate for the U.S. in their religious schools while American schools do the exact opposite.
    I am sorry that Yasir Arafat has been kicked out of every Arab country and has attached his name to the Palestinian "cause." I am also sorry that no other Arab country will offer nearly as much support to Arafat as we offer to them.
    I am sorry that the U.S. has continued to serve as the biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arab nations while wealthy Arab leaders blame the U.S. for all of their problems.
    I am sorry that left-wing media elites would Rather (pun intended) not talk about any of this, thereby perpetuating your anger towards us. It's probably really bad for your blood pressure. I am also sorry that most of you lack the medical resources to measure your blood pressure. And, of course, I'm sorry that few of you have indoor plumbing. That's bad for your health, too.
    I am sorry that the U.N. cheated so many poor people in Iraq out of their "food for oil" money so they could get rich while the tortured, raped, and poverty-stricken citizens of Iraq suffered under Saddam Hussein.
    I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers after their children are blown to pieces in pursuit of Arafat's "cause."

    I am sorry that these homicide bombers have as little regard for babies as the local office of Planned Parenthood.

    I am sorry that so many people are unable to differentiate between the gang rape rooms and mass graves of Saddam Hussein on the one hand, and the conditions of Abu Ghraib on the other.

    I am sorry that our prison guards do not show the same restraint that Arabs show when their brothers in arms are killed. By the way, you shouldn't be sorry about that.

    I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to seize control of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state. I am sorry we have not yet dropped at least 100 Daisy cutters on Fallujah in order to stop that effort.
    I am also sorry that cleaning up the mess in Iraq is taking so long. It only took Saddam Hussein about 30 years to accomplish all he did in the realm of human rights. Come to think of it, that's about ten years less than the duration of our War on Poverty in the U.S. Come to think of it, I'm sorry we haven't sent all of our gang bangers from South Central Los Angeles to Fallujah.
    I am sorry that every time the terrorists hide, it just happens to be inside a "Holy Site."
    I am sorry that Muslim extremists have not yet apologized for the U.S.S. Cole, the embassy bombings, and for flying a plane into the World Trade Center, which collapsed in part on Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, which is one of our Holy Sites.
    I am sorry that we have not taken a portion of the diet of Michael Moore and shipped it to one of your starving villages in the Middle East. You need it Moore (pun intended) than he does.
    I am sorry that your only supporters are professors, journalists, and other assorted Leftists who also support homosexuals, bisexuals, transsexuals, partial birth abortion, and everything that you abhor in this world. I am sorry that everyone else in America is against you.
    Finally, I am sorry that I am going to have to end this apology by asking you to kiss the right side of my conservative butt. I'm probably just having a bad day.
    For that I am truly sorry.
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