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New 2003 Prius gen 1 Owner

Discussion in 'Generation 1 Prius Discussion' started by Bill Cossaboom, Aug 31, 2022.

  1. dabard051

    dabard051 Tinkerer-in-Charge

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    Congrats on your '03 acquisition.
    Some things to keep in mind:
    (a) the "build" (2001-2003) is now 20 years old, and certain spare parts are unavailable through Toyota.
    Browse places like ToyotaPartsDeal and RockAuto to get an idea of what's available (and unavailable).
    (b) as a result of (a), keep on top of maintenance and think "preventive maintenance".
    (c) in case something does break, you may need to get creative about finding a functioning replacement part.
    (d) regarding the battery: if you are mechanically (and electrically) adept and have a full day,
    I would suggest pulling the HV battery out, doing some disassembly
    and cleaning all the contacts that charge the battery, plus the battery terminals themselves (all 76 of them).
    After 20+ years, the bus bars are likely corroded and could use a scrub/polish to get rid of green gunk.
    The multi-pin orange connector that plugs into the battery computer (in the HV battery itself) from the bundle of thin wires
    (which sense/charge each cell of the HV pack) is prone to corrosion (sometimes charring; and, rarely, fires) so a good
    cleaning once every 10 years is in order with tv-tuner contact cleaner (if you can still find some).
    The HV battery system definitely does NOT like to sit unused in a high-humidity environment.
    (e) the TechStream on an old XP laptop is an excellent investment.
    I hope you never need it; but it's darn important should the situation arise.

    Welcome to the tinkerer's society!
     
  2. Trombone

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    Shouldn't be hard to find tuner cleaner: https://tinyurl.com/497zem33 (link to Advance Auto Parts web page). I never heard of problems with corrosion in that connector, so I'd leave it alone if I were you, unless you know for sure that there's a problem. As for the bus bars, there was a recall early in the history of Prius, whereby dealer service was supposed to clean and coat the contacts with a special "goo." I had this done on my '02, so check the service records of your '03, if you have them. And finally, as for spare parts, keep in mind that much of the Classic is like non-hybrid cars, and standard replacement parts can be used in many instances.
     
  3. ChapmanF

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    Ooh, nasty! I sympathize with those who've had to deal with this. Knock wood, I won't be one of their number. But I still don't want to go messing around with the HV battery myself!
     
  5. dabard051

    dabard051 Tinkerer-in-Charge

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    Chap, thank you for linking to the "Prius battery fires" thread for the charring HV battery connector issue.
    Trombone, it's a serious enough issue that you may want to have Toyota (or your trusted hybrid mechanic)
    do an inspection just of that part (and pay the coin, as required), particularly if your battery pack is more than 10 years old.
    There are no warning signs. The corrosion, helped along by humidity, is like rust. Rust never sleeps.
    Hope is not a plan.
     
  6. Trombone

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    "New" HV battery about four (whoops, check that, seven years ago---tempus fugit) years ago, so I'm OK. Thanks for the tip!
     
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  7. Bill Cossaboom

    Bill Cossaboom Junior Member

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    I'll do whatever the collective mind here says to do! :)
    I'm also not opposed to building a parts bin if there really are things that could go away. I have a parts bin for the Range Rover, although thinking about it, the belts and hoses are pretty old at this point! I had it for my trips where I couldn't rely on access to certain things quickly. Reading these threads, like replies to this and below, etc I might be inclined to pick up a wire harness (WIRE, FRAME, NO. 2 Part Number: 8216547030, Supersession(s): 82165-47030, local dealer has 'em, $140 seems to be a sale/clearance - https://parts.westcoasttoyotalb.com/p/Toyota__Prius/WIRE---FRAME---NO-2/63428136/8216547030.htmll). I read some other thread that when you get a battery code it might be a good idea to try swapping the harness first before breaking up or replacing the battery...

    I'm inspecting a couple old laptops I have here for use here. Need to wipe them clean, etc. Also found a link for a new version of Tech Stream. I was fortunate enough to meet through here a member, who invited me over to plug my car into his Tech Stream and it all came out looking OK. But maintenance on a 20 year old system is wise. I'm not adept enough to tackle the battery pulling and playing myself so it would be a hire job or taking advantage of someone's generosity to hold my hand. One note, the vehicle has spent it's entire life in Southern California. So, while hot here, and dusty and smoggy, it's not humid. But, yes, I realize it is 20 yrs old. tech stream.jpg

    I do appreciate the sentiment/sediment, even if I'm not a good tinkerer...yet. :)

    Appreciate all's involvement here.

    Bill
     
  8. Bill Cossaboom

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    Took a three leg 250 miles trip past two days. SoCal coastal mostly highway, usual up/downs with canyons in SoCal, but mostly flat, with ~5-7 miles on, off each of the three 70 mile legs. Avg 49.4 MPG. About 37 MPG for the city streets parts. That's ~1 MPG higher than before the MAF and throttle body cleaning (not sure that's significant). I think I was pushing (driving more normal) a tad more this time, too. 64-66 seems to be the best compromise highway speed. Doesn't like going much over 67 MPH. Nothing worrisome just pushes it more. Main coolant back to ~1/2 inch low, after filling it. Second time doing this, ~700 miles total. Zero signs of leaks. Anything there? Still might boost air pressure to maybe 38/36 from 35/33. Guess I'm keeping it. Time for a detail, get the seats, carpet all cleaned up, etc (what's with the depression for the trunk and gas cap levers!? Impossible to clean under there! :) ).