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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Tideland Prius, Jun 17, 2023.

  1. jerrymildred

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    Kind of like B in a Prime in EV mode, but kind of not since the Bolt (among others) will bring you to a complete stop and the newer ones will hold you there with the brake light on. Plus, as you said, the regen in the Bolt is way stronger. I've seen mine regenerate over 60 kW even without adding in the regen on demand paddle.

    I can't speak for all EVs, but my Bolt has the exact same resistance in normal drive mode or in OPD. However, since OPD has to include acceleration and deceleration in the same range of pedal travel, the movement required for the same amount of accel or decel is less in OPD and so it might be a little more fatiguing because of that. It's certainly not because there are two pedal return springs with different strengths that get magically swapped when changing modes.
     
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  2. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    I find that my 2018 Tesla Model 3 and 2023 Bolt EV both have a very similar one pedal driving feel. I've only tried the paddle in the Bolt once and couldn't really tell that it was activated

    Mike
     
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    Mike,
    Have you done a write up comparison of the two vehicles?
     
  4. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    no...but I plan to. I need more Bolt driving and need to take notes

    Mike
     
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    Please don’t do both at the same time:eek::p;)
     
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    Gettin' all empirical on us, eh? :D

    Do you have both a Tesla and a Bolt now or will you be working from memory on one do them? I've briefly driven both an M3 and an MS. They were both pretty cool, but I just like the more conventional interface of the Bolt EUV better. And I prefer the blended braking of the Bolt when not using OPD. Personal taste, YMMV, to each his own, etc. ;)
     
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    I use the paddle if I'm coming in too hot with OPD and it adds about another 10 kW of regen. If that's not enough, I have to move my right foot. Oh dear! LOL!

    Also, the traffic lights here have an OPEC mandated habit of turning red at the last second as you approach. I usually drive with my fingers on the paddle. When the light turns yellow and I'm not quite close enough to make it, I squeeze the paddle even as I'm moving my foot to the brake pedal.
     
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  8. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    The thing is, with a Prius, a light touch will put the car in glide. With one-pedal, you need a heavier foot to accomplish the same thing. Depends on how comfortable you are.

    In my car, it can be less efficient because it permanently connects the front motor while other regen levels will allow the front motor to disconnect and the car to run in 2WD. It’s no different for 2WD models so if one prefer one-pedal drive, take the RWD model or live with slightly greater consumption with the AWD model.
     
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    I simply shift into "N" for a glide and back to "D" for normal driving. Just my last attempt to compare and contrast Model 3 'pulse and glide' versus 'cruise control moderated' speed failed. It requires a much longer linear or flatter circular test road to replicate as the speed bleeds off too slowly in "N".

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  10. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    I drive the Model 3 most of the time. The boss drives the Bolt. :)

    Mike
     
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