Navigation DVD Ver. 9.1

Only a matter of time before the ISO makes it to a bit-torrent. I would never advocate piracy... I'm just sayin'.

 

I think it is already there. I had googled the DVD 9.1 and saw looking for other threads on this topic of course.

--Mickey

 

My Prius 2010 Navigation DVD label states:

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NORTH AMERICAN
U 90
D

DVD ROM
86271-73010
464210-1079
DATA ver.08.1

© 2008 DENSO CORPORATION
© 2007 NAVTEQ
© 2007 Tele Atlas North America, Inc.
Data by infoUSA © 2007

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So, ...
the Nav program might be from Navteq?
the POI information from infoUSA?
and the Map data from Tele Atlas?

Also, the map data might be from about 2006, with roads (or road-related information) deleted (to save space on the DVD?) in the many "non-coverage" areas.

Questions:
1. What is the corresponding label info from a Prius-delivered 9.1 DVD?

2. What do the non-obvious label info parts mean?

3. Is the Nav System in the 2010 Prius a "gen 6" system?

 

The mastering SID code (IFPI L155) in the silver label band of my NavDVD 8.1 indicates that (apparently) a mastering machine at the Toshiba-EMI Ltd. facility in Japan made the master for this DVD.

 

I haven't ordered yet but called two local dealers and they both quoted me around $200 for it.

 

Based on the photo from the previous page:

NORTH AMERICAN
U 91
D

DVD ROM
86271-73011
464210-1420
DATA ver.09.1

© 2005(?) DENSO CORPORATION
© 2008 NAVTEQ
© 2009 Tele Atlas North America, Inc.
Data by infoUSA © 2008

 

My dealer "guessed" $299 a week or so ago, but did not yet have it available.

However, the question still remains:
Does the v9.1 contain anything worth doing the upgrade, even at $50?

 

Maybe the U90 / U91 is the percent coverage?
Most portable GPS units have "100%" USA coverage.

Is the 86271-xxxxx a Lexus part number?

Is the 464210-xxxx a Toyota (Prius) part number?

 

Two dealers locally say that the 86271-73011 "part" has a $1100 price associated with it.
So, maybe it is not a real part number, or perhaps it is the part number of the core of the compatible Navigation System electronics package?

One parts department warned me that there might not be any significant visible change with an update DVD, since I live in an already well-covered area. I thought that was a kind and appropriate warning.

 

I went to the dealer yesterday and took a look at a 2010 prius with the 8.1 disk in it. The detailed coverage area is better then the 4.2 disk that I have but not by much. It only covers the most densely populated areas and even then it's missing many addresses. It is pitiful that we have to have a Garmin in the car for when this system falls short.

Looking at the improvement list for the 9.1 disk from the 8.1 disk it really doesn't add much. I was sooo hoping that Toyota had gotten their act together. I'd pay $300 if they would take the same information that's in the cheapest Garmin and put it on their DVD update.

I can't understand why, with a DL DVD, Toyota is so grossly behind TomTom and Garmin in their coverage. Garmin's map, with POI info, is less than 2 gb if I remember correctly. The reason that I can see is that they want to continue to squeeze their customers.

I really like the integrated system but I would never purchase it. It's way overpriced for something that's sooooo lacking.

 

Well ... if very, very few buy the 9.1 DVD, maybe Toyota will get the message?
Probably not. Maybe they would just stop producing updates!

I tried to buy the Prius without the Nav, but they only had the car in "black",
which I really did not want.
In the last 2 days of "clunker-time", the choices were quite limited.

I wanted a light color for night time safety and for daytime heat reflection.
The Blizzard Pearl is very nice, and my wife says ...
"That's my favorite of all the Prius colors!".

 

Where a dealer is quoting a price for the 9.1 NavDVD,
can you get the Toyota part number for the 9.1 DVD?
Thanks, Gary

 

I've had in-car Nav for 10 years and upgraded once after about 5 years. There was very little change. The areas I drove in that had problems still had the same problems. The same with my Garmin, a $100 update gave me absolutely no value. I really think those of you that are thinking about plunking down $200-$300 are should really think twice about it. Wait until ver. 10 or even 12 comes out and if you still have your car, you might (say it twice, might) get at least a perceived improvement.

 

I have about a dozen models of GPS Navigation devices.

I have gotten "upgrades" that lost function: lost Canada, no longer showed Speed Limits,
had old, old street errors re-introduced, had "broken" roads at state boundries, and had significant new routing problems.

So, an update, even at $15, is not necessarily an easy decision.

If I can borrow a 9.1 DVD, or talk to somebody that has it, I might be able to find some differences.

 

See post #59 in this thread.

 

One dealer just called back and said that they could order "the" (presumably 9.1 for the
Prius) NavDVD (part number 86271-gen06-09) and get it in several days, for $200.

 

The dealer said that they would (should?) get a description of the changes
on the new 9.1 NavDVD when it is officially "announced" to the dealers.

 

Things I have not found (or are lacking) on the 8.1 DVD:

1. The current GPS-calculated Speed
2. Speed Limits
3. Speed limit +/- N car speed warnings.
4. Voice prompts when using the phone.
5. Traffic Camera warnings
6. Off-road navigation abilities.
7. Map correction abilities (closed, one way, new streets, or no-left-turn intersections).

These are available:

1. List of connected satilites, direction, and signal strength (but not as a sky-map).
2. It announces Destination's side of street.
3. "Coverage" maps. See Info, Maps, Coverage.
4. Follows the car off-road.

 

Will you post the dealers and numbers? 200 is the best price I have heard and feel comfortable dealing with a "known" outfit.

Are you going to order from them?

--Mickey

 

I absolutely agree with you. At the very least, wait until Toyota publishes a list of the differences between version 9.1 and 8.1. Why spend $200 or more, and not even know what you are getting?