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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Prius Team, Jul 23, 2010.

  1. mainerinexile

    mainerinexile No longer in exile!

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    But but but we already have automatic headlights. Turn them on, leave the switch on, they go off when you open the door.
     
  2. marduk

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    I'd call that automatic headlight shutoff. not quite full auto headlights. Besides, leaving the switch on change the instrument lighting contrast.
     
  3. DaveinOlyWA

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    The dash lights are adjustable


    Pruisteam; I thank you 4 The announcement for changes For the 2011 model year. As you are fully aware Hedging not need this announcement You would've had to read through thousands Of request for information.

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    No, when I pick the models in setting up my profile, I didn't know exactly what to pick so I pick the closest. That's all.
     
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    That's not nice. If you hate the backup beeps (not horns) so much why did you buy the Prius? That's not crime enough to get someone fired.

    What I wish is that it should be beeping outside the car, not inside so pedestrains notice you are backing up silently in EV mode. It beeps outside when you lock/unlock the car already. Simply redirect the bleeping beeps to different bleepers. No additional cost and everybody's happy.

    Please, please, please Toyota, do the obviously right thing.
     
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    I read you only pick model if you from the US, or pick NA
    Then under packages pick what you have
     
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    Because I like it in spite of that, but it's a totally asinine inclusion into the car, IMO and in the opinion of many. Even if it simply beeped twice in quick succession and then stopped, the endless beep beep beep it's simply bad form. It's bad design. It's something somebody read about on paper and failed to reevaluate following implementation, otherwise it would not be there.
     
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    You have turned it off, right? To single beep. Scangauge or dealer.
     
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    Nope, I'll ask next time I'm at the stealership, though. I forgot last time :(
     
  10. Prius Team

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    I know, I'm evil, right?

    Alas, I cannot. We don't usually make a habit of releasing information so far out. So I know that doesn't make your buying decision any easier - sorry for that. I do have one solid recommendation though.... buy two!

    <slaps face for shameless self-promotion>

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  11. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Pick N/A then =). It's a US thing...

    That would be an AUTO-OFF function (or in Toyota speak "Automatic Headlight Cancel Operation").


    Full automatic headlights (in Toyota speak "Light Control System") means that you don't have to touch the headlight stalk at all. The headlights will come on if you go into a tunnel or underground parking lot or you drive long enough to transit from night to day or day to night. It also automatically adjusts the instrument panel lighting so if you decide to run your headlights manually during the day, the instrument panel will not dim (unlike the US model where you have to manually put the IP in DAY mode)
     
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    We share your enthusiasm for the PHEV Prius, and we're eagerly anticipating its arrival too :)

    But Toyota absolutely MUST ramp up production and advertising for the "regular" Prius too. There are tens of millions of American and Canadian households which can afford a regular Prius, if they make it a priority and reduce spending elsewhere, but can NOT afford/justify the more-expensive PHEV version. Not even if it qualifies for the full $7,500 federal income tax credit.

    A second major obstacle to adoption of the PHEV Prius in the short run is the absence of recharging infrastructure. My fiancee and I live in an apartment, and for various reasons won't be buying a house anytime soon. Our apartment complex has no plan whatsoever to install charging stations -- the leasing manager was ignorant and dismissive when we raised the possibility -- so we couldn't charge our PHEV Prius at home.

    Nor can I charge a PHEV at the workplace.

    So for all the people who can't afford a PHEV, or who can afford it but can't recharge it anywhere realistic, Toyota had better crank out the regular hybrid Prius. (Hopefully assembled in that big new plant in Mississippi that's just sitting idle. HINT: we expect our car-buying dollars to directly support American factory jobs next time, or Prius is off the list.)

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    I think Toyota expects PHEV to be a drop in the bucket of overall Prius sales. Also, since charging stations will be so slow to deploy (and in any case unless it's at work they are not that useful--even a quick charge system is slow and people won't wait around for their car to charge), it will be home owners initially who are installing stations. Thus it is a shame the range will be so short.
     
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    We can discuss ranges all day; what is quote on quote appropriate and so on. but the only shameful thing here is the curr ent progress we have on the charging infrastructure
     
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    But in light of how darn few electrics are out there it's not at all surprising. It would be a huge money loser for anybody who did it without massive gov generosity to fill in the gap. I really think that due to the long time it takes to charge there seems little point in even getting a big charging infrastructure to be honest. Even if you can quick charge a car in 10 minutes (and that stresses batteries; even with an entire nuclear plant of power there is only so high a C rate you want to throw into a charging battery) how many people would sit at a gas station for that? I hate the two minutes it takes to fill as it is, and that gives me hundreds of miles of range. Charging stations only make sense at home where time is bountiful or at work where it's bountiful, but I cannot picture many businesses paying hundreds or thousands for stations for the few who are likely to use it, then charge those people for the user of the company's power anyway.

    It's safe to assume that for the indefinite future if one wants to charge they'll be doing it at home, so that means either give a substantial electric range (100+ miles) or gas backup, like the volt and prius plug-in.
     
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    The fact that We even have to discuss range, Charging locations, etc. is a tragic story that was written by big oil catering to the massive appetite of political Self interest.

    98% of cars are parked more than 21 hours a day. Even with the slowest charging option, that is enough time to put more than. 150 miles back on the meter.

    But here we sit more than 15 years after a successful EV product launch with literally nothing ready and why is that?

    Is it not a good idea to use vehicles with power supply. That we can wholly. Produce nationally?

    Is it not a good idea to use a technology that creates a much smaller. Carbon footprint?

    Is it not a good idea to use technology. That does not compromise the air we breathe?

    Or is doing the right thing not worth it yet? Do we need to feelmore. Pain first?
     
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    I wouldn't mind charging at home on plain old 110 outlet. Be very nice!
     
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    Given that current 2010 Prius sales seem to be slow and no reason to expect 2011's to be any better given that it's the exact same model, it's surprising that Toyota wouldn't at least try a few low cost (to Toyota) improvements to boost 2011 sales.

    For example, is it really that difficult/expensive to offer a few additional exterior colors? Granted, Toyota isn't known for having very interesting or exciting exterior paint schemes - but couldn't you (Toyota) at least try a little harder to sell your cars in the USA? For example, Hyundai looks like they'll be taking a few chances with their paint scheme on the new Sonata Hybrid (pic below).

    Also, how tough would it be for Toyota to offer at least an alternate to the dorkmobile 15" wheel covers? The 17" alloys on the Prius V looks great, so Toyota at does have a clue how to make a decent (sporty) looking alloy wheel. How about offering a low cost upgrade to a 16" alloy wheel that looks just like the 17" alloys similar to how BMW/MINI offer wheel choices. Alternatively, at least come up with better 15" wheel covers.

    One would think that a few more exterior paint options and better looking wheels wouldn't cost Toyota much if anything to implement or require any safety recertification. Even better (for Toyota), they could offer them as priced options similar to BMW/MINI.

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  19. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Individual options (a la carte options) will make a vehicle more expensive to make because they'll have to cater to a wider variety of possible combinations. It's also harder for used car buyers to get the car they want (Given how dealers and some owners aren't detailed in their listings, how do you know what equipment the car has?)
     
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    That's for sure. Most certified used Toyota dealers do not list the package of a Prius advertised, just the options. I would imagine it's a little trick they employ.