My TSB EL010-04 Update Thread

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Got a call from the dealership about 3.5 hours after dropping it off. Claim it is fixed, with 2 working fobs (two old ones can\'t be programmed to work after the TSB EL 001-04 oscillator replacement). I\'m going to pick it up in about 15 minutes and I\'ll try to get as much info as I can about how they got it fixed and what problems were solved and will post what I can learn here.

I\'m VERY relieved. Thanks for the well wishes. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

Bringing it all together...

1)It doesn't appear to matter, for the TSB EL 010-04 (fuel guage TSB) if the SKS is turned on or off. That was a red herring to the whole problem.

2)TSB EL 001-04 (Speed Pass/oscillator replacement)and TSB EL 010-04 are not the same thing!!!

3)IF you have the TSB EL 001-04 done make sure to bring them all your old fobs and they give you only NEW fobs. That, according to the service manager, is the only real issue that caused all my trouble. That is, when they inadvertently did the EL 001-04 TSB they gave me back only my old fob and apparently didn't go through the whole TSB and programming (the service mgr. claims it didn't say anything about that in the TSB bulletin, but I posted it above and it clearly states that the old fobs won't work and you have to use the new ones and goes so far as to explain how to transfer the batteries from the old fobs to the new ones and the exact algorhythm for programming them, etc. Seems that got 'forgotten' and never realized.

4)If #3 occurs, don't let them replace the SKS ECU--it's not necessary, they just have to program the new fobs properly.

When I picked up the car today it was freshly washed (even the Service mgr. said it was the least they could do). I didn't get charged for the oil change I'd had done a week ago....but, oddly, I don't remember a sticker to have my oil changed being in the car until I picked it up. I'm a little concerned they gave me another 'complimentary' oil change dumping my fresh Mobil 1 synthetic!! I'm not sure though, there's nothing about it on the receipt and the mileage for the change is closer to what I was at (+5k miles) last week. So maybe I didn't notice the sticker or they just remembered to put it on today.

I double checked that both fobs worked inside and out--they did. I double checked that both mechanical keys unlock the door--they do. I checked that the radio presets, reverse beep, and door unlock settings were as I like them--they were.

I am a happy happy camper again!!

Thanks all for your support....
Signed,
Your favorite Guinea Pig!!

 

Mongo,
There's no reason at all your gas mileage should be affected by the TSB...it simply doesn't factor into the fuel usage in any way. Weather and other factors are much more likely.

I, too, am not seeing the improvements I'd hoped for in the fuel guage or the ability to fill the tank. I dropped to 3 bars showing at 273 miles into my current tank and am averaging 51mpg....

That means I've used, at most, 5.5 gallons of gas out of 11.9...I should be showing 1/2 tank or above, not 2 bars below. I don't know if cold weather is a factor (it can affect the bladder size and it's been below normal since 10/8 here), but that is simply not an improvement and it may be worse than before though I'll want several tanks in a row to be sure.

At this point I really feel that only those with really terrible fuel guage issues should have the TSB done. It's just not worth the risk:benefit if my experience is the norm. I've seen a few claiming significant improvements. I've seen a few saying it's unchanged. None really saying it's worse.

 

A tiny followup to my comment about the possible complimentary oil change they didn't tell/ask me about. I got a chance (worked all weekend) today to check the tire pressures. Sure enough, they'd dropped them down again (well below factory specs actually). That makes me about 99.9% sure they dumped my 1 week old Mobil 1 synthetic for Castrol with their attempt to do me a favor for all the trouble with the SKS.

Argh!! Guess I'll just live with it for 5k miles, but it sure is annoying. I wish they'd have given me a coupon or asked me if it was OK or something.

 

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If I were you, I'd make them change the oil to my brand of choice at my earliest convenience at their expense. It should take no more than 15-20 minutes, while I wait and monitor their work.[/b][/quote]

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If I were you, I'd make them change the oil to my brand of choice at my earliest convenience at their expense. It should take no more than 15-20 minutes, while I wait and monitor their work.[/b][/quote]

Nah, it's just not worth it at this point. There's no harm in the mineral oil and my time is too valuable to sit around the service dept. any more than I already have. They were trying to do the right thing by me, I ultimately got both oil changes for free (other than the cost of synthetic I'd purchased for the first change). I'll switch back the next change....only 4300 miles away!!

 

Fuel Guage Update:

I'd call this my first "Real" tank since the TSB was performed. All the rest I filled up prior to the last bar flashing or the car was at the service dept. trying to get the SKS fixed and the mileage got reset or something interfered with my driving the car as I usually do and filling just after the last bar flashes.

Unfortuanately even this tank may not be "real" as it was much colder here this past few weeks with temps dipping to the high 30s and low 40s (I did NOT however see the yellow snow flake).

Even so, the dropping of bars was much faster than expected. My last bar started flashing at 430 miles into the tank while I was averaging over 53mpg (my worst tank in 3-4 months btw). Knowing I had more I drove on to the 478 mile mark.

Shut off was at 8.5 gallons, pulling the spiget back and nursing I got up to 9.0 gallons in the tank. Computer had shown 53.7mpg, calculator says 53.1mpg.

I say I'm not happy. Still, my largest fill after almost 14k miles is 9.6 gallons in the tank. I had high hopes for the TSB to resolve the fill and accuracy issues. Although the guage seems to fall at a more predictible rate it is now predictibly inaccurate. Had I filled at the first sign of flashing and stopped filling at auto shut off I probably would only have gotten 7.5 gallons in the tank.

This is no improvement at all.

We'll see how the next one goes and then I'll probably close this thread.