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My diesel gets better MPG than your hybrid

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Fuel Economy' started by slair, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. diamondlarry

    diamondlarry EPA MPG #'s killer

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    My hybrid is currently getting 84.4 mpg after 769.9 miles with 2 pips howing.
     
  2. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bwilson4web @ Aug 9 2007, 03:57 AM) [snapback]492894[/snapback]</div>
    The EEVC sponsored The Tour to the Shore rally earlier this year through the NJ Pinelands. Prizes were awarded in Hybrid, Gasoline & Diesel classes. High School clubs entered their biodiesel Jettas and a kit car. There were a handful of Prius, two Insights, and one gas entry. There was a shorter rally for the converted EVs built by other High School clubs. Hopefully the rally will become an annual event. The rally is covered in detail in another thread.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JimN @ Aug 11 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]494104[/snapback]</div>
    I've read nothing but good about that rally. It has a good mix of technology and that appeals to me. I could also drop my wife off in NYC to visit her son and from there, it is a day-trip.

    Bob Wilson
     
  4. ronvalencia

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ Aug 10 2007, 05:19 AM) [snapback]493149[/snapback]</div>
    And "It (i.e. Polo Bluemotion) will accelerate from 0 to 62 mph in 12.8 seconds" (via "1.4-litre, three-cylinder" engine) i.e. slower the larger Prius 2.x.
    http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/company/press/..._polobluemotion

    The BlueMotion 2 (with higher levels of equipment compared to Bluemotion 1) emits 104 g/km of CO2 i.e. same as Prius 2.x.
    http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new_cars/forth...polo_bluemotion
    Polo BlueMotion 2, offers additional specification:
    - Remote central locking
    - Illuminated vanity mirrors and two reading lights in front
    - Alarm
    - Air conditioning

    BlueMotion 1 doesn't include the above equipment i.e. no aircon.

    Some people wants X AND Y AND Z features NOT X OR Y OR Z features.

    Maybe Toyota should build a Prius with a three-cylinder ICE and no aircon in an Aygo platform.
     
  5. gazz

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rval @ Aug 11 2007, 11:01 PM) [snapback]494203[/snapback]</div>
    Yes I agree with all the above, but people that like to knock the Prius in the UK now love it that it no longer boasts the lowest CO2, the one interesting fact is the the UK government tax Diesels 3% more for company cars. But I must say there are a lots of new diesels coming out soon which on paper are a economical as the Prius and with the same spec (BMW, Mini). I suppose it depends on what you think of diesel, I still hate it when you follow one that pumps out a big cloud when it pulls away.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rangerdavid @ Aug 10 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]493850[/snapback]</div>

    :D Would you like to handicap it and see? I think we can find enough weight to fit in your hybrid to match the weight of my diesel. :lol: Let's see if your hybrid can even get up to speed with an additional 5000 lb's in it, ;) let alone get more than 16 miles per gallon. :p
     
  7. ronvalencia

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ Aug 13 2007, 05:37 AM) [snapback]494365[/snapback]</div>
    To reach the lowest CO2, BlueMotion 1 has no aircon and other equipment.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rval @ Aug 13 2007, 04:29 AM) [snapback]494597[/snapback]</div>
    Why would leaving off the A/C lower CO2, I assumed all test would be done with it off, can't believe it adds the much weight.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ Aug 13 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]494600[/snapback]</div>
    Not just aircon. Did you actually read VW's press release?

    Once you loaded the BlueMotion with aircon and other equipment (i.e. as in "BlueMotion 2") the CO2 values is the same as Prius 2.x. Refer to the http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/company/press/..._polobluemotion
    Please read the actual VW press release.

    To quote VW's press release....