My Concerns with the New Prius

I wonder if that’ll go away with North American destined version. It looks “euro” proportioned: extra long, and not tall enough, for NA plate dimensions.

 

It'll fit whatever Japan uses.

It's worse case. Sites discussing unsprung weight will go over why there isn't an easy rule like tire pressure and temperature. I didn't want to spend paragraphs on it.

Important sound bite; unsprung weight has a far larger impact than sprung weight.

Putting the LE wheels on the other trims will get most, maybe all, of the fuel economy of the LE.

They'll make add on brackets for those markets the plate doesn't fit, like they do for models without a front place for a plate now. I'd don't think Europe has a single plate size.

 

I think full specs are now on Toyota website. Doesn’t look like LE will be getting smart key.

 

just like the original listing here, nothing listed for the LE, and no description of the LE entry and start system.
not even a mention of keyless entry fob

i'll fall over if they return to a key, or even a fob/pushbutton only.

 

I see this on spec pages, in the "interior" section:


location: https://www.toyota.com/prius/features/mpg_other_price/1223/1225/1227

Maybe, the LE still has ONE door SKS, but they're sure not being clear about it.

(Moot point in Canada, no LE for us.)

 

exactly, the future is unclear...

 

Maybe this was mentioned already, but do we have any accurate pricing? It looks like the new Prius models could be $2,000 to $3,000 more than last gen. Is this true?

Being more expensive would be a concern of mine.

 

And "ZERO" tax credit. Chevy Equinox EV comes out in the fall 2023 for $30,000 to $40,000. And I bet come early 2024 you can get a $7,500 tax credit on the Equinox EV. Have no idea how the compact SUV Chev will compare (drive wise) with the Prius Prime plug-in.

 

Tideland.....you have tire size wrong....it is 195/60/17 for the base model...

 

.....depends WHERE in CA.... some places the difference is 35 cents each gallon...

 

I'd think the Bolt is a better comparison. More power, more room and costs less, with or without a tax credit. And it's 100% EV. So why buy a Prius?

 

Here the difference between regular and premium fuel is 70 cents per gallon. Regular right now is $3.099 and premium is $3.799.

 

Yeah whatever the actual size, for sure there’s a typo: if you’ve same aspect ratio and same width, and diameters 2” apart, you’ve got a problem.

@Tideland Prius should revise that, confusing.

 

So I can drive halfway across the country without worrying about running out of fuel.

JeffD

 

What country do you live in?

I made a 2013, 11-bar, 84-mile-range Nissan Leaf work in a region that doesn't have charging stations but every 70 miles on average, sometimes even much farther. I did a 400 mile trip and a 700 mile trip in said Leaf and did several 150 mile trips in it.

Try PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You and see if there's a charging station every 100 miles along your half-a-country routes.

 

I live in the same country as you (see my profile). When we travel to Chicago (900 miles) or Florida (1200 miles) our stops for gasoline typically take 15-20 minutes every 250 - 350 miles). With an EV those stops would need to be more often and take a longer duration. My spouse will not even consider an EV for either of our cars so I have no choice.

JeffD

 

i'm in the same boat with mrs b, convenience rules. she would never accept the burden of longer delays due to ev refueling, on top of the tediousness the trip already provides.

it's not the number of chargers, but the inconvenience of where they are compared to gas stations, the time it takes to refuel, and the increased quantity of stops.
our florida trip in the hycam requires two ten minute stops over 1400 miles

personaly, i would make an adventure out of it, but i like being married

bolt has more room than a prius? that was one of the things holding me back