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Michelin Hydroedge with Green X 195/60 Impressions

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by roverguy78, May 29, 2010.

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  1. swi66

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    What does the "Green X" mean.
    I found Hydroedge on discount tire direct
    195/60-15 Michelin Tires

    Are these good in snow?

    I need tires real soon, so am still shopping.
    Thought about the Goodyear Triple treds but these are only $5 each more and a $70 rebate iinstead of the goodyear $30 rebate.

    See mixed reviews on the Goodyears, but that is on different makes of cars.
    Will use tires year round.
    The 100,000 mileage looks good for the Michelins

    Thoughts?
     
    #21 swi66, Jun 17, 2010
  2. JimboPalmer

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    Green X just means it is a Low Rolling Resistance tire.
     
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    Well if anyone's interested, the Hydroedge is on sale at Costco right now, until the 1st week of July. $70 off when you bring in the coupon that comes in their mailer. I'm still blown away how well ours have lasted, and they've got about 85,000 miles on 'em. Crazy!

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    HydroEdges are not among the best all-season tires in snow/ice. They are highly rated for 3 season performance, especially for rain traction, plus they are known for long wear. And with the new Green X formulation, they have a fairly low rolling resistance.

    If you want an all-season tire that performs well on snow and ice, I think the tire to get is the Hankook Optimo H727. They are Consumer Reports' highest rated, true 4 season tire. Their snow and ice performance astoundingly equals or exceeds that of most of the winter tires tested by Consumer Reports.

    AFAIK, the cheapest place to get them is gripston.com, which sells them in the 195/60R15 size for around $80 each delivered (free shipping and no tax), plus right now until June 30, there's a $30 rebate if you buy 4:

    Gripston - Search

    Here's a copy of the Consumer Reports November 2009 tests of all-season and winter tires. It's the most recent and comprehensive tests of tires out there right now:

    [​IMG] Consumer_Reports_Nov._2009_Tire_Tests-1.doc
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  5. roverguy78

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    Another update on the tires. I've now put around 1,800 miles on them.

    - Overall average MPG is right around 48 (50 mpg on the worn integrity tires).
    - I finally got to use them in the rain. It really does feel like you're driving on a dry road. Considerably safer feeling.
    - Noticed some tramlining (tendency to want to follow deep grooves in pavement) at higher inflation. Dropped them to 36/34 and lost most of the tramlining. No noticeable drop in MPG. Smoother ride, and handling actually feels better as well.
    - Feels like they have less rolling resistance since being broken in. Glides just as easily as it did with the integrities now.
    - They are also more quiet now, and it's not just because I've gotten used to them.
    - Dry traction is excellent. The finicky traction control quirks become nearly non existent. The couple times that the trac has kicked in, it's almost not even noticeable. Have not experienced the dangerous situation where the traction control could - for lack of a better word - stall the vehicle in an intersection. That was quite common with the integrity tires.

    I am very pleased with these tires. If you absolutely must run your tires up to the sidewall max PSI, then you'd probably be better off with the stock 185 size for reduced tramlining tendency. I would still go with the 195's for the noticeably improved braking distance, handling, cornering, etc. Gives the car a more stable feel.
     
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    I had the Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max 195x65x15 on my 2010 Prius ... didn't like the way they handled on I-5 here in Southern California so I did my research and discovered Tirerack.com had done a low rolling resistance tire test ... the Michelins were bettered by others on the gas mileage but when it came to handling they were outstanding ... the owner surveys seemed to corroborate the test results so I got me some 215x60x15 Hydroedges and glad I did ... handling is a lot better ... gas mileage before was 43 ... mileage went down a fraction ... the traction and handling improvement was worth the upgrade.
     
    #26 delmartian4, Jul 27, 2010
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    There is another thread in "tire upgrade" about tire size. Very interesting...
     
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    I have question about the Hydroedge with Green X. Is there a Hydroedge without Green X? Is the Green X something new? If I price the Hydroedge will it have Green X without saying so?
     
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    Hydroedge without Green X came out first. The model with Green X replaced it so I think the original is discontinued.

    I don't know if it is simply marketing or they actually changed the compound used in the tire.
     
    #29 usbseawolf2000, Aug 2, 2010
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    5,000 mile update: I think it's safe to say they are broken in now. The tramlining I mentioned is pretty much non-existent now. Have driven through several torrential downpours. They are simply incredible in the rain. I am currently running them at 38/35 PSI. Average MPG is 48-49. Highly recommend these tires!
     
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    Thanks for the info about the Hankook H727s. People might also want to check the Tire Rack consumer survey results for both the Green X and the 727. (As a new poster, I can't link them.) Bottom line, 727 fares slightly better in snow than Green X, though both are viewed as excellent there, while Green X fares slightly better than 727 in other conditions. Overall rating ("would buy again") is slightly better (8.9, or "superior") for Green X than for 727 (8.3, or "excellent"). On the other hand, 727s are significantly less expensive.

    Bottom line? Each is top-ranked in its respective category and each seems to be a good tire.
     
    #31 dbaker, Sep 29, 2010
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