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Featured March 2016 Prius daily sales rate down 30% from 2015

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by UsedToLoveCars, Apr 2, 2016.

  1. wjtracy

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    I've also been saying that RAV4 explains part of Prius sales.
    Assuming Gen4 sales have not yet reached full force with new vehicles still getting into smaller dealers, Toyota potentially reaches 80% of hybrid sales this year or next.
    I hope Toyota keeps the new v's coming I can see renewed interest in v as it potentially fills a need for existing Gen2/3 owners looking to keep the space that the streamlined Gen4 more sedan-like design tends to downplay.
     
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    Possibly - any guess on when that will no longer be an issue? In theory - a manufacturer is supposed to be able to quasi-predict demand. Not that it's always right . . . . acres & acres of Hummers languishing unsold in hidden back lots for years comes to mind.
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    you heard about the steel plant explosion, just after production began?

    i doubt we'll ever know if the new styling has positively, or negatively affected sales.

    but i think it's time to assess hybrids as a totality of a manufacturer, not each individual model.
     
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    Exactly! The Prius isn't for everyone. For example, my wife's health led me to look at a Ford transit a year ago because of the easier wheel chair access. Fortunately, she got better and wheel chair access is no longer a hard requirement. But I am still interested in a mini-van hybrid.

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    Glad to hear your wife is getting better.
    The Chrysler minivan hybrid will be very interesting...I hope.
     
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    i just hope it will be reliable. but bob can fix anything.
     
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    ..you've heard of TCH...now we THC (Toyota Hybrid Chat)
     
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    -Even with the prius hatchback's numbers broken out, year over year sales are down.

    - Comparing this month's sales to the same month last year isn't "cherry picking" the data - it is how you compare sales. Your chart shows adjacent month sales which is especially disingenuous because sales were down the last couple months due to new-model switchover.

    - Ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy.

    -There is no shortage of prius inventory- truecar.com is showing the average transaction price for a new prius III is under factory invoice. That doesn't sound like a a shortage to me.

    -Gas prices aren't the problem. There's crazy interest in the Chevy Bolt. You-know-who just took 325,000 orders for a car that doesn't exist yet - more orders in one week than a couple years of prius sales.

    Prius-style hybrids had their decade of fame, but now they are the past. The numbers are starting to reflect this.

    When GM hits it out of the park with the Bolt, expect Toyota to announce a mass-market full electric car to compete with it.

    What is completely baffling is why Hyundai would try to come to market now with a prius competitor. It must have been years behind schedule.
     
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    Must have been bad timing:
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    Looks like the 2016 Prius have put a positive slope on sales. The RAV-4 hybrid is doing pretty good too.

    Bob Wilson

    ps. strike two
     
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    Come on we killed all your points in this thread. Sales price has nothing to do with supply. I would agree Tesla has support/fans/investors, but GM? Toyota has no interest in selling Li batts at a steep loss, GM might have interest in that. I would agree mega-subsidies for Plug-ins hurt hybrids sales, but within the hybrid sales, Toyota and Prius are King.
     
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    gas prices aren't the problem. repeat until convinced.
     
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    Just remember to give us a follow up, will call you on it! have already bookmarked this post!

    The 2016 Baseball season is underway, I'd like to see some home runs! :)
     
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    Yep
    That seems like a problem doesn't it? Its April 2016, all the gen III's should be gone and the gen IVs should be filling lots. For whatever reason, toyota produced too many gen IIIs and is slow on the gen IVs. We can't tell how well the gen IV is doing until it has inventory, but I get these emails from dealers trying to sell me a gen 3.
    There is crazy interest in the model 3. The bolt? GM expects to sell about 30,000/year when they ramp up. That is great compared to the leaf, but not much compared to prii. People are going to wait for that model 3. It just sounds like a better value, and survey's say people want bigger and nicer, which the model 3 promises. The bolt still didn't get the message that rules for plug-ins are different. Still GM is going to gain electrified market share, and the volt is the best selling plug-in in the US over all times. The model S looks like it will easily outsell the bolt in 2016.

    Gas prices are a problem for the prius, a car that has sold because of low gas use. The gen IV improved drivablity, but maybe not enough for low gas prices.

    Bolt is killing leaf sales ;-) I doubt it is hurting prius liftback sales.
     
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    Current inventories will reflect April sales, not those of the past. The supply was limited until just recently.




    That's called drawing a conclusion based upon anecdotal evidence. Macro economics tell us it is reasonable to have expectation of a demand plateau until the rest of the competition joins in. Without that variety and endorsement of support, sales won't grow much.

    We are only seeing that joining now. Notice how there are slim to none for selection available from some automakers?
     
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    So where is the thread that graphs all the annual Prii sold?
     
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    Prius Sales Worldwide Past 11 Years
     
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    that link takes me to youtube, rick astley.:p
     
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    well would YOU want a canabal living with YOUR family? Isn't it bad enough GM has the new bolt eating its own?

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    Is it bad that GM has a 230 mile / charge EV for $37k? Uh, no.

    btw, Bolt is on the cover of MotorTrend with Model S with comparo test. MT likes the Bolt.
     
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    Please buy one and tell us how it worked out. Opinions are BS. Put your money where your mouth is.

    Bob Wilson
     
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