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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by F8L, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. Britprius

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    Just had some new tyres by Toyo bought to my attention in Europe. I do not know if they are available in the US, but certainly worth checking.

    Toyo NanoEnergy 1
    Only made in 195/65/15 RR is very low, rated at A. Wet grip is good, rated B and noise level is low at 68db
    Toyo NanoEnergy 2
    Made in most sizes from 14 inch to 18 inch wheels. All sizes are A rated for RR, C rated for wet grip and noise level of 70db

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    I'll look into it. Thank you for pointing them out.

    I've been so busy that I have slacked off in my tire research but now that I see a shortage of LRR tires available for Volt owners and Prius 17" wheel owners I will be more diligent. :)
     
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    Looks like tirerack.com reviewed the P7, did quite well. Especially on saving gas.

    Tire Test Results : Testing Grand Touring All-Season Tires with a Sporty Edge
     
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    people are saying that the x-ice 3 will last almost twice as long as the blizzak 70.
    Then there are talk about how winter tires are only good for 3, 4 years max as the softer rubber degrades.
    So is the longer lasting treads on x ice really that importing when you still have to replace the entire tire because the rubber's gone bad?
     
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    I think what they mean is that the tread wear on Michelins is more resistant to wear than the Blizzak. There is a 40,000 mile tread warranty on X-Ice. So you shouldn't HAVE to replace the tires in 3- 4 years if they are NOT worn out. On the X-Ice xi3 , which i own, there is a wear bar for best snow/ice traction. I dont know if that is after 10, 20 or 30K probably about 20K or 5-6/32" left on the tire. When it gets below that, snow/ice traction is not OPTIMUM, but would still be better than an all-season. So you can replace at that point if you wish, or continue to drive on either with reduced efficiency. or use it as an all season until the tread gets down to 2-3 mm. Choice is up to you when you replace it, as long as it is legal. (above 2/32"). If you hardly drive at all in the winter, it should last many years more than 3 or 4. Personally, If I finished the snow year at 5/32" , I think I would drive them the whole summer to get and extra 8-10k on them before I tossed them out and replaced them. I plan on driving 7,000 miles / winter on mine, so they should easily last me 4 or winter seasons (the 4th season may be a little dicey) , plus one summer. If you only drive 4k per winter, they would last 6-8 seasons plus one summer from my calculations, assuming they really are good for an average of 40,000 miles. I really dont think the rubber itself spoils in 4 years, but someone with more knowledge may be able to answer that.
     
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    I have the plus performance wheels (17's) on my car and it is using Toyo Proxes A20. Since the car came with them brand new and I only drove the car for 1 week so far, I can't comment on them other than the fact that they look really nice and seem to have a rim protector lip on them!

    I used to have proxes 4 on my previous car and they were loud, uncomfortable (stiff sidewall) but turned on freaken dime! I would most likely get toyos again even though they wear out fast. With the prius' handling being boring as it is, having a awesome expensive tire will make up at least a bit for that.
     
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    If you want to learn more about tire technology my friend Rick Popely will be hosting Woody Rogers from TireRack on his radio show today. http://www.talkzone.com/shows/199/Ca...sAndBucks.html

    Today's Episode

    October 10, 2013
    Tireology
    We will get down to where the rubber meets the road and explore the gripping subject of Tireology on Cars, Trucks and Bucks.

    John Rastetter and Woody Rogers of the Tire Rack, the online tire superstore, will explain what you need to know about different sizes and types of tires, the pluses and minuses of the various types and which tires might be best suited for you and your vehicle.

    If you're thinking about new tires or have questions about the ones you have now, tune in at 3 p.m. CDT Thursday when experts from the Tire Rack will be ready with answers.
     
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    Hi all,

    I've been reading this thread quite a number of times, since I'm trying to find new tires for my girlfriend's Prius 2007.
    I'm lost though—she has different tires from over the years, all sized 205/65/15, and that's the problem! I cannot find anywhere that makes sense according to this thread, other sites etc.
    I really wanted to get the Michelin Energy Saver A/S, but that's a no-go since they don't exist in that size. Any other suggestions that would have similar capabilities?
    We're in NYC when it comes to whether and conditions.

    Please help, because I simply don't understand the rim sizes and this thread...

    Thanks so much.
    -Kristian
     
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    You can use 195/65/15 instead providing you are buying and fitting all four tyres together.

    John (Britprius)
     
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    The tires supposedly on her car (205/65/15) are much too large. I would suggest using the OE size or at worst a 195/65/15 if you need the extra ground clearance.
     
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    Thanks all for the replies so far.
    Being a pretty stupid novice here, can you fit 195/65/15 tires on the rims she has then? Will they still fit with no issues? Because then I'll just get the Michelin in 195...
     
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    Assuming she has the original wheels. I would double check the wheel and tire size again. If they are the OE wheels then a 195/65/15 will fit just fine. It is smaller than the current tire but larger than what her car came equipped with from the factory. IMO the 195/65/15 is a safer tire for the Prius because it is so heavy.
     
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    Since she is in NY I would suggest running true winter tires or something like the Nokians WR series and swapping to all-season tires the rest of the year. If she can only get one set of tires then the Ecopia EP422 has decent snow traction, great fuel economy, long treadlife and is fairly priced.
     
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    Any info on Nokian's latest line of tyres? Notably the W+ and WR D3?
     
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    Amazing it'll be the Ecopia EP422 then!

    She says it's the OE wheels, but got the tires changed over the years. So I should basically take it to an auto shop and get it double checked for size first? Or should I simply buy the 195/65/15? These:
    Size: P195/65R15
    LRR: Ecopia
    Sidewall Style: Blackwall
    Serv. Desc: 89H

    UTQG: 400 A A

    Thank you so much for the help, very appreciated.
    -Kristian
     
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    The original tire size is printed on the door jam along with the recommended pressures.
     
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    The OE tire size is 185/65/15 for the 2004-2009 non-Touring Prius. :)
     
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    fixed that for you :)

    It's a shame you can't make a simple statement on the internet without qualifying it 6 ways to Sunday.
     
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