sshd and smbfs are telnet and samba daemons I think. I'm surprised they are turned on. I'm curious what NuShrike says, but imagine turning them off is reasonable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 7 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]282901[/snapback]</div> Where did you redirect it? Something like: dmesg > ~/dmesg.dump should work. ~ = shortcut for your home directory. There's two boot loaders Linux uses, LILO and GRUB. LILO is text and you can tell that when you first boot up, it gives a very brief lilo: prompt, or bootup is all text. You can definitely tell you are booting with GRUB if it's a graphical screen and it lets you up/down arrow to select a kernel to boot. Seems SuSE 10.1 uses GRUB by default. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 7 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]282901[/snapback]</div> chkconfig cups off (printing) chkconfig cupsrenice off (makes printing not affect computer speed?) chkconfig nfs off (unix network filesharing) chkconfig nfsboot off (booting off network drive) chkconfig portmap off (port mapper for nfs) chkconfig postfix off (mail send/receive) chkconfig smbfs off (windows filesharing, off unless you really want to swap files with your windows machines) chkconfig sshd off (secure/encrypted remote login access, turn off if you wouldn't ever use this; usually, this is the only network port you leave on) Here's a link that breaks it down really well for you: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.ph...ndpost&p=175394 I think chkconfig just turns off the script that will run it. You still have to run something else to kill the current running service. Could just killall <servicename> like how us rawhide BSD people do it. You could reboot, but UNIX is all about never rebooting. From http://www.samspublishing.com/articles/art...&seqNum=5&rl=1: as root: cd /etc/init.d ./nfs stop ./postfix stop ./smbfs stop etc...
Okay, now we're getting somewhere. I configured those services off (cupsrenice had to be shut off before cups, but there were no other glitches). My problem with the redirect of dmesg was that I apparently have permission to write to my home directory but not to its parent, the daniel directory. I have the grub bootloader, not lilo, since mine is graphical. I did reboot, because that was easier for me. But after I rebooted I got several errors about icons disappearing from the system tray, and I had to click on Reload for each of them to get them back: the Show Desktop icon, the icons for the 4 desktops, and now I forget which other. I wonder if turning off one of those services did this. I also changed my root password to make it more secure. It's always hard to think up a new secure password that I'll be able to remember. I have a couple of easy ones I use for sites that don't need to be secure (like when you have to register to access a web page but you don't care if someone else logs in as you) but the critical ones get unique passwords, and I wanted this to have a unique one also. Anyway, I finally came up with one. Here's the dmesg dump: Linux version 2.6.13-15.10-default (geeko@buildhost) (gcc version 4.0.2 20050901 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux)) #1 Fri May 12 16:27:12 UTC 2006 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000d2000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000027ef0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0000000027ef0000 - 0000000027eff000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 0000000027eff000 - 0000000027f00000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 0000000027f00000 - 0000000030000000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec10000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 638MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000f8130 On node 0 totalpages: 163568 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 159472 pages, LIFO batch:31 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 HP ) @ 0x000f8080 ACPI: RSDT (v001 HP 3097 0x20040206 LTP 0x00000000) @ 0x27ef8bc4 ACPI: FADT (v001 HP 3097 0x20040206 PTL 0x0000005f) @ 0x27efee2a ACPI: SSDT (v001 PTLTD POWERNOW 0x20040206 LTP 0x00000001) @ 0x27efee9e ACPI: MADT (v001 PTLTD 3097 0x20040206 LTP 0x00000000) @ 0x27efef74 ACPI: MCFG (v001 PTLTD MCFG 0x20040206 LTP 0x00000000) @ 0x27efefc4 ACPI: DSDT (v001 HP 3091 0x20040206 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x8008 ACPI: local apic disabled Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.4 Virtual Wire compatibility mode. OEM ID: Product ID: APIC at: 0xFEE00000 Processor #0 15:12 APIC version 16 I/O APIC #1 Version 33 at 0xFEC00000. Processors: 1 Allocating PCI resources starting at 30000000 (gap: 30000000:cec00000) Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda2 vga=0x317 selinux=0 resume=/dev/hda1 splash=silent showopts bootsplash: silent mode. Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 65536 bytes) Detected 1791.169 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Memory: 642648k/654272k available (2029k kernel code, 11028k reserved, 695k data, 204k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3587.56 BogoMIPS (lpj=7175128) Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Disabled at boot. Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 CPU: After generic identify, caps: 078bfbff c3d3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000001 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 078bfbff c3d3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000001 CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) CPU: L2 Cache: 128K (64 bytes/line) CPU: After all inits, caps: 078bfbff c3d3fbff 00000000 00000410 00000001 00000000 00000001 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) CPU: AMD Mobile AMD Sempron™ Processor 3000+ stepping 02 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 1718k freed ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found! not found! ACPI-0376: *** Warning: Workaround undefined [Z00I] object in dffe6780 ACPI-0376: *** Warning: Workaround undefined [Z00J] object in dffe6780 ACPI-0376: *** Warning: Workaround undefined [Z00F] object in dffe6780 ACPI-0376: *** Warning: Workaround undefined [Z00G] object in dffe6780 ACPI-0376: *** Warning: Workaround undefined [Z00H] object in dffe6780 ACPI-0376: *** Warning: Workaround undefined [Z00N] object in dffe6780 ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0c38) NET: Registered protocol family 16 ACPI: bus type pci registered PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd8bc, last bus=5 PCI: Using configuration type 1 ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050408 ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing ACPI-0251: *** Warning: Handle is NULL and Pathname is relative ACPI-0251: *** Warning: Handle is NULL and Pathname is relative ACPI-0251: *** Warning: Handle is NULL and Pathname is relative ACPI-0251: *** Warning: Handle is NULL and Pathname is relative ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] segment is 0 PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:14.1 Boot video device is 0000:01:05.0 PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:14.4 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 10 11) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs *10 11) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 10 11) *5 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 10 *11) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 10 11) *3, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 10 11) *4 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 10 11) *9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 10 11) *0, disabled. ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 24) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.P2P_._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 © Adam Belay pnp: PnP ACPI init pnp: PnP ACPI: found 10 devices PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report TC classifier action (bugs to [email protected] cc [email protected]) pnp: 00:07: ioport range 0x1080-0x1080 has been reserved pnp: 00:07: ioport range 0x220-0x22f has been reserved pnp: 00:07: ioport range 0x40b-0x40b has been reserved pnp: 00:07: ioport range 0x4d0-0x4d1 has been reserved PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0 IO window: 9000-9fff MEM window: c0100000-c01fffff PREFETCH window: c8000000-cfffffff PCI: Bus 6, cardbus bridge: 0000:05:09.0 IO window: 00002000-00002fff IO window: 00003000-00003fff PREFETCH window: 30000000-31ffffff MEM window: 32000000-33ffffff PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:14.4 IO window: a000-afff MEM window: c0200000-c02fffff PREFETCH window: 30000000-31ffffff ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10 PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:05:09.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:05:09.0 to 64 apm: BIOS not found. audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) audit(1147241497.592:1): initialized Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) Initializing Cryptographic API vesafb: framebuffer at 0xc8000000, mapped to 0xe8880000, using 6144k, total 131072k vesafb: mode is 1024x768x16, linelength=2048, pages=84 vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:53b7 vesafb: scrolling: redraw vesafb: Truecolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0 bootsplash 3.1.6-2004/03/31: looking for picture...<6> silentjpeg size 76011 bytes,<6>...found (1024x768, 12703 bytes, v3). Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 127x44 fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:KBC0,PNP0f13:MSE0] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12 serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing enabled ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:14.6 -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:14.6 disabled io scheduler noop registered io scheduler anticipatory registered io scheduler deadline registered io scheduler cfq registered floppy0: no floppy controllers found RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 64000K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice input: PC Speaker md: md driver 0.90.2 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: bitmap version 3.38 NET: Registered protocol family 2 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) TCP reno registered NET: Registered protocol family 1 Using IPI Shortcut mode ACPI wakeup devices: KBC0 MSE0 P2P AUDO ACPI: (supports S0 S3 S4 S5) Freeing unused kernel memory: 204k freed Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ATIIXP: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:14.1 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11 PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:14.1[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ATIIXP: chipset revision 0 ATIIXP: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x8410-0x8417, BIOS settings: hdaMA, hdbio ide1: BM-DMA at 0x8418-0x841f, BIOS settings: hdcMA, hddio Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: ST9402113A, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 hda: max request size: 1024KiB hda: 78140160 sectors (40007 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) hda: cache flushes supported hda: hda1 hda2 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: UJDA770 DVD/CDRW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 5.10, id: 0x258eb1, caps: 0xa04713/0x0 input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio1 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C2[C2]) ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports 8 throttling states) ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (27 C) Attempting manual resume swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature? hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 ReiserFS: hda2: found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard journal ReiserFS: hda2: using ordered data mode ReiserFS: hda2: journal params: device hda2, size 8192, journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit age 30, max trans age 30 ReiserFS: hda2: checking transaction log (hda2) ReiserFS: hda2: Using r5 hash to sort names bootsplash: status on console 0 changed to on md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. Adding 1052216k swap on /dev/hda1. Priority:-1 extents:1 device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: [email protected] spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. lp: driver loaded but no devices found Linux agpgart interface v0.101 © Dave Jones pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub ohci_hcd: 2005 April 22 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:13.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.0: OHCI Host Controller ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.0: irq 11, io mem 0xc0000000 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 4 ports detected ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:13.1[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: OHCI Host Controller ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: irq 11, io mem 0xc0001000 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 4 ports detected ACPI-0212: *** Warning: Device is not power manageable ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:13.2[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ehci_hcd 0000:00:13.2: EHCI Host Controller ehci_hcd 0000:00:13.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 ehci_hcd 0000:00:13.2: irq 11, io mem 0xc0002000 ehci_hcd 0000:00:13.2: USB 2.0 initialized, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 8 ports detected shpchp: shpc_init : shpc_cap_offset == 0 shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:14.5 -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 10 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:05:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xe922a000, 00:16:36:29:d6:f5, IRQ 10 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:05:09.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:05:09.0 [103c:3091] Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x00e8, PCI irq 10 Socket status: 30000006 pcmcia: parent PCI bridge I/O window: 0xa000 - 0xafff cs: IO port probe 0xa000-0xafff: clean. pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xc0200000 - 0xc02fffff pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0x30000000 - 0x31ffffff cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: clean. cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: excluding 0xc00-0xc07 0xc10-0xc17 0xc50-0xc57 0xc68-0xc6f 0xcd0-0xcdf cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: excluding 0x878-0x87f cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean. NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c036b920(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver ip6_tables: © 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ip_tables: © 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ip_conntrack version 2.1 (5111 buckets, 40888 max) - 248 bytes per conntrack bootsplash: status on console 0 changed to on BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 1 devices found eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 ACPI: AC Adapter [ACAD] (on-line) ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present) ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] ACPI: Lid Switch [LID] IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.14 <[email protected]> microcode: CPU0 not a capable Intel processor microcode: No new microcode data for CPU0 IA-32 Microcode Update Driver v1.14 unregistered bootsplash: status on console 0 changed to on eth0: no IPv6 routers present powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.50.4) powernow-k8: 0 : fid 0xa (1800 MHz), vid 0xa (1300 mV) powernow-k8: 1 : fid 0x8 (1600 MHz), vid 0xc (1250 mV) powernow-k8: 2 : fid 0x0 (800 MHz), vid 0x13 (1075 mV) cpu_init done, current fid 0xa, vid 0xa bootsplash: status on console 0 changed to on bootsplash: status on console 0 changed to on SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.102 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=107 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=87 SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.102 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=107 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=87 SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.102 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=107 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=87
I ran Suse Linux on my old PC 233Mhz with 198MB memory. It was slow but worked just fine otherwise. I'd like to get back to it but I've got Macs at home only. Is there any good distribution for a Mac? Also, I am thinking of taking a UNIX class because it's offered to me free of charge and I'd like to learn it anyway. Would knowing UNIX be helpful in running Linux as well? Sorry, Daniel didn't mean to hijack your thread.
Questions about memory: The Compaq came with 256 MB of RAM and I added a 512 MB chip. Is this enough? Or should I throw away the 256 MB chip and replace it with a one-GB chip? And why is it that the memory monitor tells me that my "total physical memory" is 629.67 MB instead of 768? (It also says I have 69 MB of free physical memory as I am typing this, with about 3 windows open. FWIW, it also says I have 53.52 MB of disk buffers and 357.14 MB of disk cache.) Maggie: Welcome to the thread. I bet you could run SuSE Linux on a Mac. I think there may be a different distribution for the Mac architecture. And, yes, Unix and Linux are similar enough that a Unix class would be useful. You can download a free copy of SuSE Linux from this web site: (Or you can buy the disks and a book.) http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version Note that there are different versions for different architectures. A store salesman told me that for the Mac you need a special bootloader, available free from the Apple web site. I bought the physical disks. I also bought SuSE Linux 10 for Dummies, which includes a free distribution disk. So I have two copies. If you want to send me a PM with your mailing address, I'll gladly mail you the free disk I got with the book, because I really have no need for it. (This is probably a small, simple install, since it's a CD - the full version comes on a DVD or a bunch of CD's.)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 8 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]282974[/snapback]</div> You only need the special Mac bootloader if you're running an Intel mac. If you have a PPC mac you don't need Boot camp to run linux.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 8 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]282974[/snapback]</div> Daniel, thanks for the offer, I downloaded it last week so I am all set. Thank you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 5 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]281842[/snapback]</div> For Linux books, check the discounted books at Barnes & Noble and Borders ... its amazing that they think the basic Linux commands are out of date! I pick up Linux, HTML, CSS, etc. books all the time for $5 - $10 ... which is far better than the $40 the new editions cost.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fshagan @ Jul 8 2006, 07:22 PM) [snapback]283176[/snapback]</div> Used bookstores are great if you're not looking for anything in particular. If you're just browsing you're bound to find something good. But if I'm looking for something in particular I don't have the time to search used bookstores for it. But the remaindered sections of new book stores are just full of the stuff they couldn't sell because nobody wanted it. I've never found anything good in the bargain section of a new book store. And I don't mind paying full price for a good reference book. The advantage of Amazon is the user reviews can usually give you a pretty good idea of the quality of a reference book, and then I can have it the next day if I'm in a hurry.
Just found out that Suse doesn't run on a Mac. I guess I'll download Kubuntu What's are the differences between different distributions?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maggieddd @ Jul 9 2006, 01:03 PM) [snapback]283375[/snapback]</div> Well, Suse and Kubuntu are fairly different. They both use KDE as their desktop (which is a good thing), but the ways in which they manage software is completely different. Kubuntu uses Debian as it's 'foundation', and Debian stores all of it's software that you install in online repositories. Which means if you want to install openoffice, you simply fire up a package manager (which manages packages in repositories), tell it to install open office, and it will download it and install it locally. You don't have to physically go out and download the right package/version for your system, its' been done already. And if there are any updates to packages you have installed, it will tell you and prompt you to update them. One of the strongest selling points of Kubuntu for me is the fact that the current version (6.06) is going to have 6 years of support/updates. I find that to be very appealing. If I can stay up to date with KDE and my nvidia drivers, that's really all I need. SuSE is an rpm based distribution, which means you download packages that end with .rpm, and then install those. Or try to. A lot of SuSE users are now using APT for RPM with their SuSE systems (I sure as hell was), which makes things roughly as easy as Kubuntu's setup. SuSE versions usually have a year of strong support, then things die off rather quickly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Jul 9 2006, 01:37 PM) [snapback]283388[/snapback]</div> What's the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maggieddd @ Jul 9 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]283405[/snapback]</div> Ubuntu uses Gnome for it's desktop, and Kubuntu uses KDE. They're otherwise interchangeable, and use the same software repositories. You can even switch from one to the other without a reinstall. Personally I think KDE has the edge in software. K3B is the best cd burner I've used, and a lot of gnome people end up using Amarok as their media player because it's one of the best media players around. Apple liked Konqueror so much they ended up using it's guts (the KHTML engine) as the basis for Safari. But either one is probably fine.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Jul 9 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]283408[/snapback]</div> Thanks, I am about to install it on my PowerBook. I don't need to format my drive do I? I assume it will be partitioned and formatted anyway during installation. Am I correct?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maggieddd @ Jul 9 2006, 02:28 PM) [snapback]283412[/snapback]</div> I'm not sure if it does or not. I found instructions on how to resize your partition for Ubuntu 5.04 here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89960.html And I'm not sure if you would still have to do the same with 6.06 or not. It resizes windows partitions in 6.06, but that doesn't mean it does the same for mac partitions.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Jul 9 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]283415[/snapback]</div> perhaps I should just format it anyway. I don't want to keep my old OS.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maggieddd @ Jul 9 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]283416[/snapback]</div> If I remember rightly, both kubuntu and SuSE offer you the option of wiping out everything on your HD and starting out with a clean install of the new OS alone. And if SuSU didn't install on your Mac, you might have downloaded the wrong version. It's supposed to work. But it's a different version than the one that works on Windows machines. Actually depends on the machine architecture, not the present OS.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 9 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]283449[/snapback]</div> Daniel, I read on Suse's website that it does not run on the G5s and new PowerBooks, so I didnt even attempt to install it
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 9 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]283449[/snapback]</div> Daniel, I read on Suse's website that it does not run on the G5s and new PowerBooks, so I didnt even attempt to install it
