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Leaf: guesstimate on $ per mile

Discussion in 'Nissan/Infiniti Hybrids and EVs' started by jason98, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. evnow

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    Some more info from Apteraforum.

    Leaf Reservations? - Page 4 - ApteraForum.com - Unofficial Aptera Car Forum

     
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    Wow! You have high rates there! Here, in Dec., our off-peak rate is only 5.8c/kwh so it will only cost me $1.39 for 100 miles, and that's if it would be empty, but most of the time it will probably be at least 50% left. When I use the pv's, then it will be virtually free since they have to buy back during peak hours. :)
     
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    Ours doesn't allow clotheslines either, so we bought a couple clothes 'racks'. They work great!
     
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    U guys seem to be getting too technical. U really don't know the Depreciation of car or other things. So u can't add that up. But if u figure how much electricity cost per mile it gonna depend on where u live. Where I'm at I pay with taxes out the door about 14.5 c a kw. that means if it takes u the full 24kw to go only 80 miles the i pay 4.35 c a mile vs my pruis costs 6.0 c a mile @ 2.90 a gal. U have to guess on the miles per kw. To me it Does'nt matter a whole lot if I save money. It's just a cool thing to have new technology and be one of the leaders taking a step toward a cleaner future.
     
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    My Apple Macbook pro tells you the cycle counts. I had 382 cycles over 2 years and my pack was holding 70% of the original charge. The batteries in the Leaf will be more advanced.
     
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    I think its pretty safe to say the battery will go 100,000 miles with no serious range loss. As others have stated $9000 is a reasonable figure for the price.

    11.5 cents per mile. In reality the pack even at 100,000 miles may be worth a $1000-$2000 if a new pack is selling for $9000 making the cost slightly lower.

    In the future companies may rebuild the packs with new cells for less money then Nissan, or even build them with better cells with lower weight or more capacity.
     
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    $9000 is the cost to Nissan. Retail list price will likely be $15K for replacement.


     
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    Well, the replacement cost will be zero for the next 3 years atleast (they will give 3 year battery warranty).

    If you assume a battery life of 7 years, the replacement cost in 2017 will be well south of $15K.
     
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    Well, the same source now states $18k:

    Nissan Leaf profitable by year three; battery cost closer to $18,000 — Autoblog Green


    So this leaves only $14k for the rest which I think is still reasonable assuming it has 90% less moving parts than a regular car.
     
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    Not the same source. ABG is just reporting stuff from other sources.

    WSJ : Perry says "less than" $18K
    Times : $9,100
    Bloomberg : 1.05 million yen ($11K)

    I see consistently lower numbers from Japan compared to US ... hmmm.