kim chi: the Staff of Life?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KD6HDX @ Jul 3 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]472252[/snapback]</div>

It's much more than that. We swallow billions of bacteria with every mouthful of food and every sip of water. And there are hundreds of billions living on and inside of us.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KD6HDX @ Jul 3 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]472252[/snapback]</div>

Maybe not every one. But all the reputable ones do. And the locals know which are the reputable ones. And at 5 pesos for a 5-gallon jug, they have no reason not to. The Mexican health authorities are vigilant and draconian. The street vendors (the reputable ones) know how to keep as sanitary as the best restaurants, and with their personal livelihood at stake, they're not going to take chances. And you can tell the reputable ones. I have passed by many a street vendor before selecting the one I will buy from. But once found, it's worth the minuscule risk.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KD6HDX @ Jul 3 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]472252[/snapback]</div>

Like I said, the big chains (whether restaurant or ship) pay lousy wages, so the workers don't care enough to maintain proper sanitation. That guy selling fruit for 5 pesos a slice on the street in Querétaro makes a decent living at it and has no other source of income. He's not going to risk it by scrimping on the purified water.

 

Maybe I haven't stayed in any one town long enough to know the good vendors from the bad ones. I'll give it a try next time I'm there. Fish tacos ensenada style while staying in Cabo would only be better if the tequilitas were Patron.

As for you preacher, I am going to pray for angry Christians tonight...in Jesus name. Amen.

I must say - that a topic that started in South Korea and ended up in Mexico.....go figure.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KD6HDX @ Jul 3 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]472648[/snapback]</div>

You do that. Seeing as I am not a 'Christian' and they need all the help they can get. And I'm not angry. I am just disgusted by another human, (you), wishing ill on another human. And if you can't handle that, oh well.

To follow Christ means to be human. And to be human means to show disgust at things that are, well, disgusting. Like disgusting human behaviour. You could have just said your Piece and left your comment out of it, but for some reason you wanted to wish ill on another. And that deserved the retort.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TJandGENESIS @ Jul 3 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]472711[/snapback]</div>

You're not??? Gosh, I thought you were. I am honestly puzzled.

I discovered a couple of weeks ago that a fellow I know goes to a church without a name. They don't have a name for their denomination, and they don't have a name for their specific church or congregation. If you ask, "What church do you go to?" there is no answer. I suppose he might invite you to go with him, or maybe tell you the address of the member's home where they will meet on the following Sunday. But the question above has no answer, unless maybe "A bunch of us just get together." They believe that Jesus is the christ, though, so I think that makes them Christians.

If I ask you what religion you are, is there an answer?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 4 2007, 12:11 AM) [snapback]472756[/snapback]</div>

I have no 'religion', as I believe they lead to fights and wars. I follow Christ. And His teachings. I long ago stopped calling myself a 'Christian', since they often don't do as Christ would have.

Christ was human, and to that, there is little doubt. Even if you don't buy He is God, there are independent historical accounts of Christ. And His basic philosophy, of peace and love and understanding, is one I try to emulate. He was not about hate, and He would have not wished ill on another. Just as He was not all about wars, and who knows what, or believes in what. He would have been the first to say, 'Whatever. Cool with me if you don't dig what I am saying.'

(although I am sure it would have been a tad more profound).

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TJandGENESIS @ Jul 3 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]472803[/snapback]</div>

Thanks for the clarification on where you stand.

In the early days after Jesus's death, there was a lot of disagreement among his followers about his true nature. There were some who insisted he was purely human, not god: a teacher who used the term "son of man" as a poetic way of saying "just a man." (The son of a man is a man.) There were those who insisted he was purely god. According to these, he only pretended to suffer on the cross, because a god cannot suffer, though it's worthwhile noting that the idea that a god cannot suffer is as make-believe as the idea of god itself. In Greek mythology gods often suffered horribly; Prometheus, for example. But the position that won out in the end was the belief that he was both human and god.

There may be little doubt today in the minds of most people, that Jesus was human. But there was a great deal of doubt at the time.

There is some doubt, in some peoples' minds, however, that he ever existed. It is a minority opinion, but there are scholars who argue that the Jesus of the Bible is a composite.

My reading of the Biblical account shows a man who was profoundly committed to what we would call communism today, and that he was profoundly opposed to violence. But he does not seem to have been as laid back as you suggest. He was always getting angry at people for not understanding him, he insisted that the only road to salvation was his road, that a rich man cannot go to heaven, etc. The guy even cursed a tree for not having fruit out of season!!! That's not a laid-back person. He was an apocalypticist who believed the end of the world was imminent and you were condemned to outer darkness if you didn't follow his recipe for salvation to a T.

So to prevent this post from being entirely off topic, why is kim chi refered to (or why does the OP refer to it as) "the staff of life"?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TJandGENESIS @ Jul 4 2007, 01:45 AM) [snapback]472803[/snapback]</div>

Really? Got any cites? I'm not being confrontational, it's just one of my hobbies.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RonH @ Jul 4 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]472879[/snapback]</div>

The Roman scribe Josephus, for one. Not sure where you can find a site for him, but I have a book (I just packed it away, I'm afraid; moving) that he wrote, which confirms from a non biblical POV of Christ's existence.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 4 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]472861[/snapback]</div>

Which is why I often say, the Bible is not 100% correct. Not even close. If you take as 100% accurate that Christ loved man, and wanted peace for all, then the rest that you cite, I feel, was laid in by power hungry early leaders of the 'Christian' movement.

I have read an excellent book, 'What Christ REALLY Said' (I think that was the title; again, packing, and books that I thought I would not need are now in boxes. I hate moving). Anyway, this book whittles down what Christ would have said, in all likely hood, and a lot of the stupid crap is bogus.

I'll admit, it's a radical view I have, but it's gaining some strength, and must be on track some, since those who run the organized religions like to tear it to pieces. They don't like change.

Sort of how the pharisees were once.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TJandGENESIS @ Jul 4 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]473016[/snapback]</div>

Rather than someone's notion of what Jesus "would have said" in the opinion of the writer, starting from an assumption that "he loved mankind," I prefer the scholarly approach of the Jesus Seminar, which concluded that the basis of his peaching was his belief in the immanency of the apocalypse, and certain beliefs about how to achieve salvation. (Give away everything you possess, love god and your neighbor as yourself, etc.) It is a recipe for a utopian society, and appeals to us for that reason, but it is founded on a prediction that failed to come true: the end of the world in Jesus's generation.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jack Kelly @ Jul 4 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]473020[/snapback]</div>

I must strongly object to your sacrilege. Serious matters like this are nothing to joke about, and I will not put up with this heresy.

Everyone knows In-N-Out Burgers are the staff of life.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stev0 @ Jul 4 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]473100[/snapback]</div>

When the characters in the Cohen Bros movie The Big Lubowski mentioned In-n-Out burgers I thought they had made up such a silly name. I was amazed to learn there really is such a place. The mere thought turns my stomach.

If anybody knows where I can get some kim chi in Spokane, though, I'd probably give it a try.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jul 2 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]472015[/snapback]</div>

Yeah my last postings did mention my dad struggling with cancer. He's lived longer than anyone thought he would, but it is spreading so we know it won't be going into remission.

Two opperations? Dang, what happened? I'm glad they turned out well.

Hiking in Canada will be fun, I'm sure. I've not done it, but I've seen pics from others who have. Beware of bears, though! My friend's father was attacked by a bear on his annual hiking trip last summer (he lived).

Yep, finally got my Prius at the end of June. I'm very pleased with it.

Love the pics of your Xebra. I really wish their EV vehicles got better range, though. I do so much driving that I need the same range as a gas or hybrid car gets. Hopefully one day....