Just need to vent...

Never seen Tamper Resistant outlets. Had to watch the video @bisco linked. I can see they can cause more headaches than safety.

 

I was scratching my head wondering what tamper resistant receptacles have to do with low voltage. Two different things.

Anywho, I had TRR's in my 2015 built home. They were quite annoying. I did eventually learn the trick. Just jam it in, like you are knifing someone in the back. I was quite relieved that my current 2021 home not have TRR's. Thank you for ending this nonsense. I've used proper TRR's that work well but the cheap builder grade ones, they do not.

My pet peeve is typing on this forum on a phone and accidentally pressing the up icon that appears at the bottom right of the text window and then losing everything you just typed. I do this constantly. I hate hate hate that icon. ​

 

The green up and down navigation arrows. I don't know what triggers it. While trying to trigger it, it deleted my previous response. Sometimes a draft is saved, more often than not, it isn't.

 

The video link in Bisco's post #4 kinda explains part of the problem Mendel had, and that I described in post #16. Evidently they don't reliably work smoothly as intended.

 

Funny thing....I used to get the typical "patrol headache' when our CO2 topped 3000ppm.
I don't even notice it topside.....

 

Just read the thread and was going to offer to send you four "normal" outlets (15amp) for free --- your posts have entertained me enough over the years that I would eat the cost of the outlets and shipping. As mentioned earlier, all the outlets on the shelves in the states seem to be non-TR

But seems you have solved your problem.

Only place I have ever seen the TR outlets is in our house in Oregon, which was built in 2014 and we purchased two years ago.

BUT -- I did not know the house had TR outlets. I saw TR on all of them, but thought that was the brand name.

Never had any problem with them. They seem sort of cheap, but plugs slip right in. I bought some outlets locally about a year ago and nothing about TR on them -- they were 20 amp, though.

 

The on-line listing for my nearest several Home Depots shows many dozens of TR choices in stock right now. Less than the number of non-TR choices, but still lots and lots.

 

My rant: when staff at work act like they don't know how to do something I asked them to do or do believe it's not their job to do something I asked them to do. They're there to be support staff for me. I have licenses and credentials that make that facility possible. Without me there not needed. And the more they can do for me the more productive we can be. Instead they try to defray as much work back upon me as possible by acting like it's something they're not able to do which makes me the bottleneck for the whole process slowing everything down. They prefer to just sit there and play on their phones. If they can't do things I ask them to do then I guess I don't need them anymore

 

If this gets to be a GOFUNDME kinda thing, put me down for a couple.
Most of the outlets around here are the 'smart kind' meaning that they are meant to be sold to people who are smart enough not to tamper with outlets.

In fact, I don't think I've messed with any TR outlets in the wild down here.

Given the regulatory overreach of the alphabet soup of TLAs (three letter administrations) we have, I suppose I had better buy a bunch of 'non-nanny' outlets before some Godless bureaucrat tries to outlaw them!

 

I've been approximately that smart, ever since that one time when I was more at eye-level with the outlets.

 

please don't give them any more ideas

 

Already solved. Combo gfci arc fault breakers on all 120 vac circuits. A friend's house was built that way a few years ago.

 

Finger in light socket isn't an arc fault. (Fork in light socket probably qualifies.)

If you touch only the center terminal, you may be a detectable ground fault, but if you touch the center terminal and shell, you might not be.

My rant is when I am making a left turn, planning my path to fall in right behind the oncoming person who is turning right and therefore has the right of way, who then looks up, sees me coming and panic stops, leaving me hung out to dry in oncoming traffic.

Happened once several years ago, and again today.

 

#32 that's not where the screwdriver goes