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  1. bisco

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    and there are a lot of negative consequences. some school systems around here are banning phones. unfortunately, some entitled parents are threatening to sue.
    they are more interested in how happy little johnny is than if he is learning.
     
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    I suppose there are some here like me, that if they'd never heard the expression, "do you want to taste the back of my hand?" They'd be worse off for it.
     
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    And then: what are you going to teach? Today's curriculum is gonna be ancient history soon enough, especially anything aiming to prepare you with skills for an occupation.

    Come to think of it, Ancient History is probably the only safe bet. I really wonder though, all that stuff we rote memorized about the Mesopotamians, ancient Greek/Rome/Egypt/Brit's, hasn't helped me much day-to-day...
     
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    My new oven is waiting till midnight to do its online update triggered when I connected to it using the app I downloaded onto my phone. The app tells me the temperatures and length of time for a long list of meals. I'd rather use my wife's 3 by 5 cards.

    Are 200 apps really needed. Does everyone really need a new password to their undeclared standards and changed every month!

    My list of passwords now runs 2 pages. And I also have to record all my log on names.

    I'm old enough to remember when the key card that let you into the computer room gave you access to everything.
     
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    even cooking pans have apps now.
    Why Smart Cooking? – Hestan Cue
     
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    Will they sue though? Make the rule, enforce, proceed from there, as long as it isn’t weird. Oncevthey hire a lawyer they may realize suing isn’t you will win.
     
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    I worked at a HighSchool for a coupla years that had students put their phones in an envelope and take the corresponding ticket as they walked through security. I worked in another HS where the students were allowed their phones during passing time. As they walked into the classroom they put their phones either into a class-box or, as I used in my classroom, a hang-on-the-wall "calculator caddy". It was a series of pockets that held calculators for class, or in our instance, student phones. Both ways worked well. Both were very good schools.
     
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    During hurricane time we here in FL use gas buddy to find stations that have not yet run out. Just saw it logs my driving data. Deleted my account...

    App for stove? Whatr they taking from ur phone data?
     
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    Gas Buddy appears to get significant revenue from selling cell phone location data of individual users. While it let me turn off location, it couldn't open without first giving it location permission, which of course is then reported before I can turn it off again. Every session. So I also uninstalled it.

    I still use its PC website, where I better understand how to control its privacy intrusions. Now use only its map feature, to gauge and pre-screen prices along our route and plan approximate refueling locations. Though recent website changes make it less useful for my purposes.
     
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    I still remember the first time I was in a building on campus and heard what sounded like a jolly conversation between two people coming toward me in a hallway, past a corner I couldn't see around. They came around the corner and were both talking handsfree on their phones, nothing to do with each other.
     
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    Glad cell phones were not invented yet during my college years.

    All the students in college would end up at the Student Center (inside it or on the lawn right outside) which was across from the cafeteria each day right around lunch time between 11 and 1 depending on your class schedule. You would interact with your fellow students - throwing a frisbee - kicking a soccer ball - some would play the guitar and sing - just a bunch of young people interacting with each other for a couple of hours before the next class.

    It was truly a melting pot of people and experiences and all face to face.
     
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    If a product is free - YOU are the product.

    BT Dubbs - your phone company and the Googles also log your data - as does your CAR if it's fairly new....ya gonna go back to a string and 2 cans???
    A horse and buggy?

    I don't think my life is interesting enough for 'trackers' to care about me - so I'm fresh out of rats to give about it.
     
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    There are phone apps that allow you to spoof location, even if the phone isn't rooted. These apps make directions more difficult as you have to input where you want to go from your actual location. But other than that - it's a good work around.
    Same here .... good thing the printer prints on both sides. We use an Excel spreadsheet so changes occurring sometimes daily can be corrected quicker. Plus you can make the fonts smaller. Sadly - in some instances now they are requiring you to put in a code sent to your phone even if your current safety security data is correct on the 1st attempt. God forbid if your phone isn't with you.

    Robots; it reminds me of a bad experience prior to retiring. I had access through lots of locked doors at the time and came through a passageway only to face a robot not too dissimilar from the one below ....

    Screenshot_2024-10-14-08-28-22-42_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

    Not a pleasant experience - facing the business end of a 12 gauge. The local police were practicing late one night which no one had the foresight to let others know what was going on.
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    A vpn will spoof your location and you can take away location permissions from individual apps too; at least on android phones. It makes apps very clunky, since you'll have to enter your correct location to get the results you want.

    Hope this helps
     
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    Although I allow the location permission for apps that requires it I keep it to "while app is on". Can't really avoid it. But since I don't have data service on my phone, only time I get tracked (other than the cell signal) is when I log in to a wifi. 99.9% of the time that's when I am home. And I'm almost sure Google and most apps on my phone already know where I live.
     
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    If you spend money as a consumer, they are interested. If you vote, they are interested. In both cases, for target characterization and profiling.

    The great majority of ads served to apps on my phone seem to come from advertisers too cheap to pay for good profiling, so I must be doing at least some of the blocking right. I know very little about the ads they attempt to serve my laptop, because very few are shown.
    I have an android. The problem was that the app wouldn't even open until it had location permission, even though it doesn't need any location for the information I was seeking. I manually zoom in to the map areas of future interest, leaving hundreds of miles of ambiguity.

    I haven't yet tried vpn spoofing with it, only with more sensitive items.
     
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    theyoften do, and win. many parents are attorneys. school districts have a lot more to deal with these days, and everyone has a different idea of what is appropriate.
     
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    So there is a garbage can right next to a ballot drop box. Many days I walk by the ballot box and put my dog waste bag in the garbage. Then right next to that there is a bathroom, so I tether my dog to the door handle for les than a minute and go in. If someone wants to record that travel, go ahead and make me a star.
     
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    Many states prohibit cell phone use during the school day.

    Our state is in the process of finalizing a bill to do just that, believe it may have already passed.

    It is my understanding all Catholic Schools in our state ban cell phone use during the school day.

    States have banned cell phones in schools as more consider it (usatoday.com)

    Kentucky House panel advances bill to forbid student cellphone use during class | AP News

    Phone-free education: Catholic schools rise to the challenge | Catholic News Agency


    In our youngest child's high school (they graduated 4 or 5 years ago) if a student was caught using a cell phone it was taken away and a parent would have to visit the school and have a conference with a School Administer to get the phone back.
     
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