Jack@ss Tesla owner

I'm all for locking your car, but I'd assume you know how long it takes to fill up and wouldn't leave your car locked to a charger after it was full.

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I monitor my BMW i3-REx with a cell phone app and the Prius Prime with a timer. But a movie is a problem and that is a cell phone hostile venue. So too, medical offices and hospitals prefer to have cell phones off.

Bob Wilson

 

Are you saying you are fine with an EV driver waiting for your movie to finish before plugging their car in? How long is acceptable, 30 minutes, 60 minutes?

Wouldn't it be common courtesy to not charge if you are going to be a while and cannot leave your plug unlocked?

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(beware - humor) is a lengthy movie the problem? - or is it a battery so small that it fills too fast.

do you take the same thoughtful consideration to the people at a restaurant, waiting for you to finish dinner? .... as your family leisurely eats their meal? ... followed by lots of nice conversation at the dinner table afterwards? .... quickly rush away from the table like a military chow hall - get back into formation?
Maybe those impatient folk otta go find some other place to eat .... organize their life better - & quit trying to foist their unreasonable expectations on others
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some don't get the meaning of the blinkie lights, or the lack their of. The tesla port only shows colored lights (green, blue, red) if the fob is present. And the screen gives the car the option to throttle up/down its charge - from a measly 1kW , to nearly 20kW if the public charger can provide it. It's designed that way so poor circuits don't blow .... BUT ... some public Chargers $ock it to you when the EVSE senses no current draw (ie; full charge). If you have a 100 kwh traction pack, you could literally be charging for over 3 days & never incur an idle fee. Buuuaaahahahaaa.

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From that reply, I would say the Tesla driver was there just for a freebie.

 

No, any paid station or non-free station.

 

Are you jumping the gun and prematurely putting words into his mouth?

 

That and nearly every car has a different code.

If you as a casual driver have remembered all of these, then good for you. But I'd wager most don't.

The Tesla roadster pulses yellow when it's charging and goes to green when it's done. The Tesla S and X pulse green when charging and go to solid green when done. Both show nothing (even when charging) when the keyfob is away. Some firmware updates keep status on the interior instrument panel. Is it ok to peer inside a stranger's car trying to read the cluster to see if it is charging or not?

But what about the Chevy's? When they pulse green (or blink really) they are finished charging! When they are solid green, they are actually charging. This would be super confusing if you're a Tesla owner. Just like if you're a Chevy owner and happen upon a Tesla with a blinking green port "oh it's charged" but it is the exact opposite. This is why we need industry standards people!

The Nissans (and BMW I think) blink blue LEDs when charging and they go off when done charging. But the Leaf also blinks 1 blue LED when the remote climate is activated, even when not charging...

And the Mercedes B class doesn't even have indicators. None on the dash. None by the port. Absolutely no indicators at all. Who let that out of engineering?

I think it is a little silly to assume the general public, even those that own BEVs, know the above incomplete list above. I personally have no idea what a Ford or Honda charging indicator looks like let alone things like the Fiat or Smart type EVs.

 

Chevy changed the light on the newer models, so it's solid green when charged.

 

That's even more confusing... Now you need to know make, model, AND generation/year to guess the magic decoder ring properly lol.

 

Unless personal signage says ok to unplug, or some prior agreement with the driver, or one knows the vehicle is done charging by being an EV whiz or doing a quick google search, best to let charging vehicles alone.

 

But lots of people, myself included don't mind being unplugged by those that need it. And if I see a charged BEV and I need it, I'll change the plugs.

 

Goes back to reading the lights. But the Leaf will text me and I'll know immediately when it's unplugged. If I don't want to be unplugged, I set the lock to Auto

 

"Hands off" might be referring to the autopilot?

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I propose a universal signal on all chargers:

RED: Do not interrupt charging! (Charge is desperately needed to reach next station.)
YELLOW: Interrupt only in desperate need. (Interruption will cause environmental harm.)
GREEN: Interruption allowed if needed. (Interruption is only inconvenient.)

 

EV Etiquette Charging Notice EV Frisbee Electric Vehicle | Etsy

 

Yes, I do, doesn't everybody? I don't gulp my food when people are waiting for a table, but I try not to dally over my glass of wine when I could easily enjoy it in the lounge area.

This is the reason I drive in the far right lane when going the speed limit. I try to be considerate and stay out of people's way who are going 10 to 25 miles over the speed limit. I also use the 'turnouts' on mountain roads to let the people behind me pass.

Consequently, I do not support the concept of free chargers. They often put people on their worst behavior, regardless of what brand of car they are driving.