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Italian Liner Sinks - lights go out

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  1. Maine Pilot

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    One of the on-line aviation newsletters I receive made an interesting comparison between the actions of the cruise ship captain and that of Capt. Sullinberger who landed his airliner in the Hudson River, almost 3 years ago to the day.

    From AvWeb...

     
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    This is getting more and more interesting. So there was a mysterious blonde with him when he wrecked the ship? He wasn't otherwise engaged with her by any chance?

    The other part of the report I liked was the most amazing display of good fortune the captain had when he just happened to trip and fall directly into a lifeboat! :eek:

    Francesco Schettino, the Italian cruise liner captain accused of abandoning his stricken vessel with passengers still trapped on-board claimed he left the ship only because he “tripped†and fell into a lifeboat while trying to help with the evacuation.

    Is he mentally ill to expect us to believe that? The words of a Captain of one of the sister ships portray how most right thinking individuals would react;

    Roberto Bosio, 44, the captain of one of the Concordia’s sister ships, the Serena, said: “Only a disgraceful man would have left all those passengers on board. It was the most horrible experience of my life, a tragedy, a heartache that I will carry with me forever.†He added: “I just want to rest and forget. Don’t call me a hero. I just did my duty, the duty of a sea captain — actually the duty of a normal man.â€
     
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    This is the equivalent of a 747 pilot buzzing a friend's beach house in Marina del Rey just after taking off from LAX.

    The liner's captain was not chicken, he was heroically organizing rescue efforts...from shore.

    That rock, stuck in the side of the ship, will be used as ballast.
     
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    ... or a Washington State Ferry captain showing 'the Siren of the San Juans' what her home looks like from the water:

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Elwha"]MV Elwha[/ame]

    Elwha on the Rocks

    "Unfortunately it was in the Islands that the Elwha would began to develop an unsavory reputation. Perhaps the most famous incident for the vessel happened in 1983 when her captain "discovered" an uncharted rock in Grindstone Harbor while showing a female passenger what her home looked like from the water. The event, while hardly comic, as it resulted in a tear in the Elwha's hull did have some soap opera-like qualities to it. Soon thereafter the woman in question began being referred to as "the Siren of the San Juans" and local bars began selling a drink called "Elwha on the Rocks." A local band in Friday Harbor cut a 45 with a song of the same title."

    "In 1989 the reef the vessel hit was officially named "Elwha Rock""


     
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    And now the cook says Schettino ordered dinner after the ship was hit. Good lord!!!
     
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    Directing the rescue efforts from shore requires a full tummy.
     
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    And Sis...


    You KNOW Italians know how to cook... whatever... cause... they ARE Italian... ☺
     
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    GIGLIO, Italy, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- The Costa Concordia captain ordered dinner for himself and a woman after the ship struck rocks off Italy's coast, a ship's cook told a Philippine TV network.

    Capt. Francesco Schettino ordered dinner for himself and a female Moldovan crew member, who was on board but not on duty, less than an hour after the $450 million, 114,500-ton cruise ship hit a reef a week ago, Rogelio Barista told GMA Network.

    ... Schettino ordered dinner around 10:30 p.m., Barista told the network.

    "We wondered what was going on," he said.

    "At that time, we really felt something was wrong. ... The stuff in the kitchen was falling off shelves and we realized how grave the situation was," he said.
     
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    Well, I think that I've discovered why the Captain left the vessel and
    passengers in extremis...

    He did it to preserve evidence, and a scientific anomaly as well...
    and that would be an adult brain fully devoid of any evidence
    whatsoever of a prefrontal cortex. :eek:

    The higher cognitive functions, working memory, mental imagery
    and willed action, are all intimately associated with consciousness. The
    common process underlying all these functions is that information is
    “held in mind†for a period of time. This information, which may be
    about stimuli or responses, can be derived from the past or generated
    for the future. Brain imaging studies show that “holding something in
    mind†is associated with activity in an extended system which involves
    both prefrontal cortex and more posterior areas whose location is
    determined by the nature of the information being held in mind.
    Automatic actions and perceptions which do not involve consciousness
    are associated with activity in the relevant posterior areas, but not in
    the prefrontal cortex. These studies demonstrate that activity occurs in
    the same posterior area whether the associated information comes
    from the outside world or is internally generated. This raises the
    problem of how we know whether our experience derives from mental
    imagery or from something happening in the outside world. There is
    evidence that patients with schizophrenia have precisely this problem
    since they perceive their own thoughts and even sub-vocal speech as
    coming from outside (hallucinations). Recent brain imaging studies
    suggest that there is a disconnection between prefrontal and posterior
    areas in these patients which could explain their characteristic
    misperceptions.

    The role of the prefrontal cortex in higher cognitive functions

    Biologically speaking, that would mean that he's got the brain functions
    of a snake or lizard or something like that.
     
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    Throw in the Spiderman scene and we have a neo-Broadway musical!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...cordia-Spider-Man-tried-to-calm-children.html

    Mr Lazzarini told how he had found the group of young passengers huddled together near the ship's theatre just as the vessel smashed into rocks off the island of Giglio.

    "From there, we waited for some sign, and once heard of the code signals, we went quietly back to the Squok Club on Deck 10," he said.

    "We gathered in a secure area because the ship was already beginning to lean on its left side.

    "We put ourselves in a circle with the children inside and began to distract from the them to try and keep them happy.

    "I dressed up as Spiderman to allay their fears.

    "After several blackouts, we heard the signal to abandon ship and I formed a chain with the children. Hand in hand, we went down to Deck 4, the pickup area, where I divided them up according to which muster station they belonged to and helped them find their parents."
     
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    How many of you are also thinking that there is a made-for-TV movie deal about to be cut with this guy over this entire ridiculous and sad disaster?
     
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    Thanks, a good account except for one nit pic
    The young officer was one of the few "men" among the ships officers. The ships officers that abandoned ship were older, but they weren't real men.
     
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    I think that was his diplomatic way of saying the same thing.
     
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    I think the true meaning was lost in translation. That 'boy' needs thanking, as do the other heroes involved here. The chickens should be made to feel their shame.

    A situation like this does sort the men from the boys. But we weren't there so can we criticise? We hope we would help but at that point of 'every man for themselves' would we? I remember some years ago coming across a nasty headon car accident at 5am in the middle of nowhere - one other car stopped to help me and my customer help free people from a burning car whereas other cars drove past, obviously not wanting to be late for work - despite us frantically trying to flag them down!

    Are they now sitting in the comfort of their home criticising this Italian captain? hmmm
     
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