Is Project Lithium / Nexcell a scam battery?

Lol... where's @Trollbait ? Thinking he's only disgruntled priuschat all-star yet to share what he's upset about in this thread... This is like grumpy PriusChat members greatest's hits thread. Reminds me how much I love this community!

 

There are certainly extreme cold weather issues on these cars with either pack (I'm not arguing it's worse with Lithium, perhaps..). Again, check with Alaska or Canada or Mongolia.

 

The best part, the more controversial it gets...it's giving NexPower more exposure and interested people in his product who are curious. What else can we argue about? EGR? Mendel...where are you?

 

Either way you're spending about two grand for a battery somewhere in that range when prices are good maybe 23 or so for the lithium so far we're seeing two to four years on the lithium something of that nature and 8 to 10 on the original diamond shape modules from Toyota so in my infinite wisdom I would have to stick with the 8 to 10 years going forward until something changes to make going forward different It's just that simple same with lifting the Prius and playing with the suspension there's no rocket science here If you want a big fat aluminum plate to go under the front of your car someone's going to have to cut it put a logo on it and some bolt holes in it who that might be I wouldn't know and then install it so you're going to pay somebody to make that mess lifting and playing around and what have you that's just basic suspension work nobody should be paying lots of money to do this on a production car they already have car chassis with this suspension that are lifted like The matrix XDIR whatever the four-wheel drive unit is pretty much very similar suspension is the Prius so you ought to be able to pick the Prius up pretty high pretty quick without damaging any steering or doing anything too crazy we've been doing and lifting and lowering strut suspensions for 50 or 60 years now shouldn't really need a help of an aftermarket parts supplier to make me up custom little pieces because there's no customization needed that doesn't mean there's not a market If you make it people will come to buy it because they own something it fits on and they think you've made something easy for them because you made it.

 

This is why we have to watch what we say and make sure when we type things, that we get the right message accross.

People do read and not just look at things.

Now we got @Grit running wild in another thread saying not to buy the lithium scam pack.

What we need to learn here is...

ProjectLithium.com is NOT A SCAM.

 

To address the op’s question, I don’t recall seeing anything in print here or on the website that answers his questions.

I do not believe that nexcell is a scam, but it is a young company and all companies have blips.
From what I’ve seen, jack generally responds quickly to problems, and communication seems pretty good.

mid I were in the market for a new battery, I’d probably go with oem just because I’m not a risk taker, and a small improvement in mileage isn’t important to me.
But I can certainly see why people do go with them, I don’t believe the percentage of problems is very high from what I’ve read, and in line with any newer technology

 

On a side note, regarding a claim made here, if anyone has the information regarding Canadian gen 3 getting oem lithium outside of the plug in, I’d be very interested

 

workers? You realize he's a 1 man operation with a couple people that help him on inventory days to move pallets around? I'd say he's done a pretty good job with limited resources.

 

@BrianStranded

I have the lithium pack in my personal car that I drive around for work and family trips.

I have tested the lithium pack since before v1 came out and right now I am on v2.5 with an additional "soother" that is further improving later versions.

Like I have said before I have torture tested all versions I have had in the wide range of temps here in the high desert.

Shorted, depleted and overcharged them with zero fires. At most I got one module to swell up a little but that triggered codes and eventually shut the system down.

You see testers talking about the lithium pack so it means it has and is being tested.

You see posts from buyers who paid for it so it means it is not a scam.

Unless you see a ton of posts from buyers saying otherwise or that their car caught fire, then I would have some trust in Toyota hybrid battery upgrade pack– NexPower Energy

Jack is a good guy and will do what he needs to do to take care of the customer.

 

Yeah I wouldn't want to call a legitimate business doing legitimate work a scam that's just bad I don't know what but something I try not to use terms and phrases like that about things because generally it's overused and not a good thing oh well it's just something else or another option I guess That's how I look at it and that's that like many I just went with the factory battery because at the time actually I didn't even know much or anything at all about the project lithium and wasn't really looking or anything I had seen the round cells before and all that but like with the Honda insight guys failure rate was way higher than it should be and I couldn't figure out why I guess because of no research and development maybe might do it But other than that it look like a system that should make things better and or easier but apparently not nobody wanted to work on it and so it just went south I guess oh well.

 

Testing and Certification– NexPower Energy

Warranty and Return policy– NexPower Energy

 

The only thing I found to be slightly different than what was claimed, was the fact I got the best MPG on V2 (crazy right?) than either 1 or 2.5. I also got better MPG with my Gen 3 engine than my Gen 4...both with Nexcell installed.

 

You're referring to the marketing department... But he's never been able to keep enough packs in stock to get to that point. Soon as he announces pre-order at the end of this month he'll be sold out of the next shipment in a matter of a day or two. We talked many times about one day when he finally has a warehouse overflowing with inventory that we can start a marketing campaign and do all the things that you suggest, but it's still a fledgling business and you're trying to kick the bird out of the nest before it's able to fly... Be patient!

 

@BrianStranded

I thought I was clear about all that you asked.

I started by using his app when I had battery issues.

I have the inside scoop because I am a tester for him.

My experience with the battery is not altered in any way just because I am a tester or have a link to give you.

Any issues that happen are sent to Jack to improve the pack in the future.

Toyota hybrid battery upgrade pack– NexPower Energy

Lots of videos of testing are linked on the website.

 

I like your technique of contradicting yourself and then calling people dumb when they don't understand.