Is it the driver's seat or my butt?

Too much cost cutting leads to compromise. The car needs more balance overall.

 

Who does that? Virtually no one.

 

Sorry, that is just spin to hide your wish for power seats subsidized by everybody else. If power seats are something that 5% of the owners would call good value at $500, and it costs $500 to add them to every car on the line, then 95 people have paid an extra $47,500 so that 5 people have one less thing to complain about (maybe).

Forget it. Toyota would be foolish to take your advice, and of course 95% of owners would be (rightfully) complaining that the Prius has gone up in price for naught.

 

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Whadya know, not one complaint about driver's seat discomfort in this midsize car in one year.

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Who cares if Prius edged over the line for midsize interior room. It has a compact seat just like Corolla.

 

Me, for one. And I'm delighted that Toyota did not take the opportunity to stuff in an expensive seat I do not want, and do not want to pay for.

 

It seems clear the Prius is a great commuter car.
Longer trips some people (including me 25 BMI 6ft'er) have some seat discomfort.
I should try some kind of padded drivers seat.

 

Maybe try bicycle shorts with padding

 

Unfortunately it is the same three people who find the Prius seats comfortable who jump in to the many complaint threads about the poorly designed seats that cause problems for so many.

Because if only hundreds of thousands (your numbers) out of millions of Prius owners are satisfied with the seats, Toyota has a problem. But we knew that from the constant and varied complaints about the Prius' uncomfortable seats.

 

I love the seats in my C

 

Time for a poll!

 

My two cents? Both your butt and back need to conform to the seat, as a guy who lives in his car it takes a few weeks and a few thousand miles for them to fit together. If your sticking to that diet then your butt and seat need to reform to one another. When i got my Prius my first 400mi day was hell on me, but over the last few weeks it's gotten alot better with less butt shifting.

 

But will Toyota pay Gallup or some other company to do a poll or did you mean one of those not worth the electrons they are made of internet surveys?

 

I think we all need to diet, then the seats would be perfect

 

I meant PriusChat. Feeling threatened ?

 

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The only reason I comment is because usually the person originally complaining is looking for answers. It may seem obvious, but seat bottom cushions are made, as well as something as simple as those mesh seat back inserts.

I've owned vehicles in which the seats were uncomfortable, and I've always through the use of cushions or other devices been able to make the seat work.

I'd also say there is no possible perfection. With a large audience of purchasers, of a wide range of weights, heights and posture, designing a seat that is comfortable for 100% of the people is going to be impossible.

People tend to complain if they have a problem...and simply say nothing if they don't, so I'm not convinced Toyota has a problem they would be wise to fix. Yes, we hear complaints...but I don't know what percentage of people vs. Total number of Prius sold, are really toxically unhappy with their Prius Seats. Prius is a pretty high volume seller for Toyota, so in comparison to total sales, the number of complaints may represent a relatively small amount. With The Prius Toyota is paying attention to creating space, and reducing weight...and The Prius isn't sold as a luxury vehicle. Therefore my expectation is not that The Prius necessarily would have the most comfortable seats in the Toyota line-up. This doesn't mean that I don't think Toyota should pay attention to the complaints and work towards improvement.

The number of people who admit to giving up...and not being able to make The Prius seats work is pretty small. I've read a few posts from people professing the seats were too uncomfortable for them and they couldn't find anyway to make it work. But those posts I could probably count on one hand.

 

I don't know if any Prius has power seats, but my CTh200 did. So people who want a hybrid with power seats have an option, they just have to pay for it.

For what it's worth though, neither my wife or I think the seat in the CTh is more comfortable than the one in our Prius vagon 2. At our age, we are a bit stiff after 3 hours driving and I suspect this will be true in just about any car.

 

None of which work as they then introduce their own problems. Good seat design is easy to do and almost impossible to fix if it is poorly done.

This thread would seem to disprove that theory on two levels. We see constant complaints about the Prius seats and those who don't have a problem saying quite a bit in defense in some kind of misplaced product loyalty.