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Is Global Warming Unstoppable?

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by kenmce, Nov 28, 2009.

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  1. icarus

    icarus Senior Member

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    I made a huge mistake,,,,

    Betcha can't "move on"!

    If you want to chalk up a win in some small semantic argument rather than address the legitimate questions I have posed to you and others, I hope it makes you feel good.
     
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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  3. icarus

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    Ufoura,

    You have never once address my specific questions. Instead you rely on vitriol about how I must be some sort of Marxist!

    You have never addressed my question about what a "significant" contribution man's influence is. "the greenhouse effect of CO2 would probably not have a major influence." You have never addressed how attempts to curb CO2 would cripple/bankrupt the world economy, or cause you "hardship and misery"

    You have never address my concern about your use of words regarding some "potential" lawsuit", and yet after all of that you contend that you "have explained" to me what you believe and why you believe it.

    Yes indeed you do admit your bias, and as I have contended too many times your (and many like you) let your bias

    "Again - yes, I am biased. I believe in freedom of the individual, free markets, property rights - all the priciples of a civil society in which men are free to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I do not believe in large government, statism, or coercion."

    cloud your interpretation of information. You have bought into the misinformation campaign that I have been speaking about, and indeed you actively participate in it, example the "lawsuit" semantic issue mentioned above. Whether or not this is deliberate on your part, or just a result of your bias and the way you communicate I can't judge, but I think you have a pattern here of promoting misinformation and half truths tends to reenforce that perception.

    Feel free not to comment to me, as that wouldn't break my heart one way or another.
     
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    And if some had brains they would be human! LOL
     
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    LOL Urban Dictionary: gored

     
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    Dearest Alric,

    I too saw that he was a creationist, and that bothered me (I actually gagged and vomited a little in my mouth!) But I can look pass ones religious convictions and I found that his argument against climate models was very convincing, and his results from his own climate models are indeed very good, and we all seem to agree that our current climate models screw up cloud feedbacks.

    So, attack the data and the article, not the source!

    With love,
    NevadaPrius
     
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    Prius is not a solution. It just cuts a piece of the problem in half while work continues on real solutions.
     
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    Myles Allen is a physicist at Lawrence Livermore. I found his blog on climategate both amusing and perceptive. Editorial
     
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    Two words: Fudge Factor.

    See this BBC video:

    Eyeblast.tv
     
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    Watched it. Note there is no comment on what the program was used for. What data or graph was generated with it. It is all nitpicking on the edges of the overwhelming evidence shown here:

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    NOAA Paleoclimatology Global Warming - The Data

    Note that you can download the data for all graphs shown at the NOAA site.
     
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    1/2 the country covered with snow is winter weather! You who claim to be the great scientific mind should know the difference between weather and climate!
     
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  12. icarus

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    Flat Earthers, sign up here!
     
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    Apparently the person you're quoting is a complete moron. "Hide the decline."

    Hello? Anyone?
     
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    Here is a little test. Can you tell us in your own words what was meant in those emails by "hide the decline"?
     
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    Obviously you are trolling. You keep posting graphs that Briffa, Jones, and Mann constructed. You know, the three people at the heart of ClimateGate.

    Google Nachricht
     
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    ufourya We the People

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    A lot of fine scientists at present and in history have been Christians. This in no way detracts ftom their scientific credentials.

    You seem to think stating one word - creationist, somehow negates his work. It is a poor argument (if that is what it can be called).

    He does make a salient point:

    If there is no God, who or what caused the universe to begin? There really are only two basic options – it created itself out of nothing or it was created by something greater than itself! If everything that begins to exist has a cause, and the universe began to exist, the universe must have had a cause.

    You may scoff, but I suspect you have no better explanation of how the universe came into existence. I'd like to hear your theory of how the universe created itself from nothing. Saying 'Big Bang' is not enough, now is it?
     
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