Iraqies Revolt Against Al Qaeda - Ask for Help!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darwood @ Jun 1 2007, 02:08 PM) [snapback]453364[/snapback]</div>

Once we help them create a country that shares the same principles we do like we did in German and Japan and elsewhere - then the capability of bad people with bad concepts will have severe difficulty rising up to positions of significant pressure. Germany still has skin heads but they are unlikely to gain power. The bad guys are finding it more and more difficult to live there - Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan - are all standing up to them. The bad guys are having trouble finding financing. The bad guys have fewer and fewer places to sleep safely at night, to train, to acquire capabilities to hurt us. They have only one real base as of now - Iran.

If these reports are true and continue - my hope - is that the dems/ libs - support keeping our troops where our enemies are - anything less than that i will question them about their sincerity about being pro-Democracy/pro-American security....

I do feel at times that some people - dems and repubs and others threaten my safety and my childrens and grandchilds safety and security. my ruler on this issue centers around those that would allow iran to develop nuclear weapons - those that would not stand behind this president or the next one who decides they have to act to stop them from getting nukes.

 

Nicely written. Thank you.
I've heard that the majority of Iranians are actually anti-ahmadajeen (or whatever the nutcases name is) and are upset that he focuses all efforts towards the military, while the populace goes further into poverty. He was shouted down by an entire college campus.

Do you think that is true or not? If it is, how can you bring about change without turning those people against us too? Simply bombing them is probably going to turn the rest of them against us. How do we get the majority into power in Iran and the nutcases out without having a second larger Iraq situation?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darwood @ Jun 1 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]453425[/snapback]</div>

I say we pull out all of our troops, apologize and focus on fixing our problems in the US, such as poverty, drugs, etc. etc. etc.

Yeah, like that would happen/work. At least I can dream

 

Drugs?
There's a useless war if I ever saw one.
It's like catching rainwater with a net and it's heavily funded by DRUG and alcohol companies. But that's a whole other topic for another time.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darwood @ Jun 1 2007, 02:26 PM) [snapback]453435[/snapback]</div>

True, true that is. You should see the movie "Alpha Dog". It's heartbreaking.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Jun 1 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]453475[/snapback]</div>

Let's not forget the >3500 US dead , >25,000 US casualties, and an estimated 655,000 dead Iraqi's part of that plan.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZenCruiser @ Jun 1 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]453249[/snapback]</div>

Sure, if you want to ask me some questions, I guess I can do my best. I was over there in 2003. When were you?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Army5339 @ Jun 1 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]453660[/snapback]</div>

Never stated I was. But I have a family member who has been deployed more than once.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Jun 1 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]453677[/snapback]</div>

It appears more pathological than a mere hobby...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Jun 1 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]453385[/snapback]</div>

This is a ridiculous statement.The Sunni insurgents are being financed and are coming from Saudi Arabia.
You really cant control your zeal to engage Iran.With similar lies that your neocon heros used to bring us to war in Iraq.
You want to preemptively bomb Iran to protect Israel.
I think its best to be honest about motives.Its certainly more honorable.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hycamguy07 @ Jun 1 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]453235[/snapback]</div>

The polling showed that the Iraqis in certain areas wanted us there, but as time has gone on, they are tiring of war. Now some want us there to protect them, but as soon as they feel protected, they will want us to leave. it is their country, and we would feel the same way if our country was war torn.

It would be nice to stabilize the country and see if the three federal areas can agree on how to split the oil revenue, and some type of self-determination and self rule for the three main factions can be hammered out. The real time to do that was in the first months of the occupation, but we bungled the war from the point just after we captured Baghdad on to just recently. Now that we have publicly told the world that September is our "make or break" month, we have in effect scheduled our defeat to backward thinking thugs who belong in the 13th century. History will not look kindly on either the Administration, or the war's critics, who negotiated themselves into a virtual declaration of surrender.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigmahma @ Jun 2 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]453844[/snapback]</div>

Au contraire, that's not a statistic - that's a meaningless number pulled out of some orifice. But I agree with you, it should be shoved somewhere - perhaps back where it came from?