iPhone, iPhone!!!!

The iPhone has no Exchange "Direct Push", which basically means I can't receive my work emails when I'm out and about.

The iPhone looks like a great albeit expensive consumer product, and Apple always creates the best interfaces, but they also always seem to come up short on business value. I wouldn't buy one of these until I could easily send/receive email, synch contacts, accept meeting requests, voice dial, install extra programs, etc. and I think the iPhone comes up empty in a lot of those areas (maybe not all).

 

never thought for a minute that the iphone would be the choice of business pros....hard to beat palm and blackberry...albeit both have shortcomings

apple has always been a consumer company and i dont see that changing now.

 

"Apple® today announced that its revolutionary iPhone™ will run applications created with Web 2.0 Internet standards when it begins shipping on June 29. Developers can create Web 2.0 applications which look and behave just like the applications built into iPhone, and which can seamlessly access iPhone’s services, including making a phone call, sending an email and displaying a location in Google Maps. Third-party applications created using Web 2.0 standards can extend iPhone’s capabilities without compromising its reliability or security."

iphone to support third party web 2.0 apps.

And the plastic screen is now going to be optical quality glass.

And the exclusive carrier will now be AT&T....I guess they bought out Cingular?

And here's a chart comparing battery life.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Jun 21 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]465873[/snapback]</div>

Cingular bought out AT&T actually... but enough of that.

And saying the iPhone supports third party web 2.0 apps is like saying I can install a web app on firefox because it can access GMail. Without *real* third party applications, the iPhone is an overpriced toy.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]465893[/snapback]</div>

Really? I did not know that was the way the sale went. Huh.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Jun 21 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]465893[/snapback]</div>

Well, until they're out and the geeks start hacking them, we'll never know.

tech specs

more info

Looks like it will sync addressbooks with entourage and mac addressbook and even Yahoo.

Will sync calendars with iCal and Outlook calendars.

"iPhone works with the most popular email systems — including Yahoo! Mail, Gmail, AOL, and .Mac Mail."

"iPhone uses iTunes to sync your photos from iPhoto on a Mac or Adobe Photoshop Elements, Adobe Photoshop Album, or any picture folder on a PC."

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Jun 21 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]465937[/snapback]</div>

Yes, but using iSync means you're tied to a PC... and working with popular email systems means web access or POP3/IMAP, which really, is nothing special and nothing that every other phone hasn't done for the last 5 years.

I do not know, I mean it's a great feature/dumbphone... but it's definitely not going to replace or threaten true smartphones.


Further edit:

Those tech specs aren't really much more than marketing fluff either. But the lack of removable media and a non-replaceable battery is a killer. With my phone I can swap 2GB cards on the go, and sync with anything that supports USB mass storage. With the iPhone, you're stuck with iTunes/iSync. Which in other terms is just another way for Apple to lock you in.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]465958[/snapback]</div>

First gen.

I'm waiting to see what the second gen will do. I'm betting it allow cards. Not so sure they'll swap out the battery. Probably bigger storage and cheaper price to boot. And not locked in to AT&T either. I'll be waiting out the two years or however long it will take until it's not locked to AT&T.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Jun 21 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]465967[/snapback]</div>

Bad news there, they have a 5 year exclusive deal with AT&T. And I think that's bad for AT&T, as I think the iPhone is not going to sell all that well once the early adopters flock to it.

Second, removable storage is anathema to apple's portable strategy. It's just not a proper fit. They'd much rather you upgrade when storage limits manifest themselves, rather than just buying a bigger card. They've done that with the iPod, and will continue to do that with the iPhone.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Jun 21 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]465975[/snapback]</div>

good.... then maybe they can drop the price so we can get them! i cannot justify 5 or 6 hundred bucks for a phone (times 2)

 

Update on iPhone features...

 

exclusive for 2 years only

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DaveinOlyWA @ Jun 21 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]466000[/snapback]</div>

No, exclusive for 5 years.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/2007...;t-iphone_N.htm

 

bummer. wont matter. others will clone it. will they do as good a job. probably not. will it be almost as good... probably. will it be half the price??? most definitely

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DaveinOlyWA @ Jun 21 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]466080[/snapback]</div>

Dude, others will clone it and it will be better. Any S60 phone out there now kicks the iPhone up and down the block.

 

I don't think AT&T or Cingular provides service in Europe...do they?

Apple is going to be marketing the iPhone in Europe in the 4th quarter. It will be interesting to see how it is set up over there. If there is a workaround to AT&T...look for european iPhones being sold on eBay.

 

they do provide access to service in europe. its a small fee to enable european service. like $5.99 a month, but you are still looking at roaming charges

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Jun 21 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]466123[/snapback]</div>

You can use Cingular in Europe, but Cingular won't be selling the phone in Europe. And while you're welcome to buy a European iPhone (or Canadian thru Rogers), you'll find it's locked to the carrier that sells it. So no, that won't work either.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DaveinOlyWA @ Jun 21 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]466129[/snapback]</div>

You're telling me the iPhones purchased in Europe by those that live there will have to buy American AT&T service and pay permanent roaming charges for all calls?