Imus in the Hot Seat

On another note, don't know if anyone brought this up yet (too lazy to read 11 pages), but I've been hearing rumors what he did was intentional so he could break out of his contract and sign up with satellite radio...

 

It would be nice to see the source on that, Squid... I think it would really put this whole thing into perspective for some of the people here if true.

Right now, people can say stuff like "he didn't mean anything by it" or "it's just his style" or whatever... but if they found out he did it intentionally so he could make more money, i think they might change their tune.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eagle33199 @ Apr 19 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]426082[/snapback]</div>

Like I said, "rumors".... no source, nothing, just word of mouth from some of my friends in NYC who have their fingers in the media business up there...

of course, time will tell, if he ends up on XM soon....

 

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I have to admit to a rare moment of agreement with Dr. Berman regarding the issue of airing the tape/killer's pictures. Giving public air to this kid's fantasy version of himself -- including what will be the forever iconic image of him holding guns to either side as if he thinks he's in a John Woo film -- frankly seems to be playing into his hand, fulfilling his final wish. Whatever minimal insight the material might give seems to me outweighed by the fact that airing this stuff seems to let the killer win in his twisted version of reality. This stuff should have gone into a vault with law enforcement and not seen the light of day.

Admittedly, given the press interest in him, it may have been difficult or impossible to stop it leaking ... but we did thankfully never see the Steve Irwin death video, so such acts do seem possible.

 

NBC should have burried that tape.

Get with the feds, local police, secret service, and a representative of the family of each of the victims. Discuss that there is a tape. Show it to this gathering and discuss it no further. It will let all the people that need to know more to know what was going on with that kid who did the damage and deny that kid the publicity and hour of fame he now has.

Airing it will now bring the deaths of dozens more. The next greater wacko is going to see how this kid went out in a blaze of fame and glory and this tragic thing is going to happen again. If they unwisely air that tape, the one after that will be even bigger yet. Way to go NBC, clearly there is no thought for the next tragic death, only a rush to air before any other network that might have also gotten a tape sent to them.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Apr 19 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]426120[/snapback]</div>

Why would they care?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eagle33199 @ Apr 19 2007, 01:24 PM) [snapback]426164[/snapback]</div>

Because they're media attention mongers.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Apr 19 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]426146[/snapback]</div>

Well, let's start burying bad news from Iraq too if that's the case... Maybe we shouldn't have aired the twin towers getting knocked down, sure fired up the terrorists... I'm sure UBL and gang use stills as wallpaper on their linux laptops...

Maybe we should have blocked Mel Gibson from releasing "The Passion" too...

While I do agree he did get the attention he wanted, as everyone on the planet now knows his name, assigning anything more than 1% blame on this type of "advertising" I don't think it too logical. I would think, in the end, it takes a bit more than that to go out, acquire the weapons, then ACT upon it.




<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Apr 19 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]426120[/snapback]</div>

lol, I think they could boost their popularity significantly, and be taken more seriously, if one, or either of them, had enough nuts to come to the aid of a white man being discriminated against by, preferably, someone black!


crap, I just gave them an idea! lol

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Apr 19 2007, 12:07 PM) [snapback]426107[/snapback]</div>

I had not considered the closure issue, nor seen much of the materials other than his double-gunned photo at the time of my prior post. I've now seen some excerpted pages (not the videos yet), and to the extent that this material defeats his chosen purpose by inadvertently broadcasting his mental illness (as the pages do), I admit it may have value; if not for that than certainly for closure. Thanks for brining up that point Evan.

 

Berman, when was the last time you knew a news agency not to release video footage like this?

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As for the WTC, that was an act of terror, performed on us by a terrorist organization. War can only be performed by another nation. Both of these, as we've already discussed, were acts of terror.

And Clinton couldn't have stopped them. did you know the French Intelligence services alerted the White house of the threat of hijacking airlines 9 months before 9/11?

 

According to Websters:

Acts of terror by a terrorist organization not under the direction of a state or nation are not acts of war.

Where do you get that i supported any invasion at any time? stop putting words in my mouth.

If a nuke goes off anywhere, it entirely depends on who sets it off. if a terrorist group steals one and sets it off, it's an act of terror, not war. I fully support going after the terrorists (but please note that that doesn't apply to Iraq, as the terrorists WEREN'T THERE)

You seem to assume things about me that simply aren't true, Berman. You think that, because I'm not willing to abuse labels to try to get peoples blood boiling that i'm not willing to do anything but sit back and watch us be destroyed.


In just about every case, you would know because the footage would be talked about. People would know it existed and was buried somewhere. Take, for example, the croc hunter's death - captured on film. Everyone knew it was on film. No news agency got a hold of it, however. cooler heads closer to him prevailed and destroyed it.

 

Berman, try reading the book "The Sum of All Fears". It's about some nuclear scientists that defected from Russia, built a bomb for some madmen, and blew it up in the US. If you pay very close attention to the book, you'll notice that the moronic president almost starts WWIII without knowing all the facts. Once the facts are known, he takes the appropriate action to hunt down the people who were actually responsible.

But by all means berman, use whatever excuses you can find for your trigger happy finger. ignore the fact that instructions for building nuclear weapons have been available on the internet for 15 years. Ignore the fact that other nations facilities aren't as secure as ours. Ignore the fact that there are known quantities of nuclear material unaccounted for, whereabouts unknown.

Ignore these facts all you want. If it comes down to it and you and your conservative buddies pull the trigger on WWIII, we'll know who really hates America, the World, and all of Mankind.