Hybrid Long-Term Test Update Part 2

Sarge · Feb 23, 2006

Originally posted by CanadianDriver article
It's mostly city driving in the conditions described above. We're seeing 8.7 L/100 km, and filling up with an average of 33-litres of regular gasoline when the electronic gauge gets close to empty. That's an average of 381.6 kilometres per tank, which holds 45 litres of gasoline..."

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Ha ha... I really wonder how these people drive these cars.

In my 1996 Integra with 185,000 miles, I averaged 7.97L/100km (29.6MPG) for January 1st through today (2708 miles) in my daily commuting.

In contrast, last summer (June 1 - Aug 31), I averaged 7.99L/100km over a span of 6838 miles. Same traffic mix.

This is commuting across Toronto daily, with a fairly even mix of highway and stop & go traffic. This car is rated 25/31MPG - my lifetime average is 8.17L/100km - but have never really seen a dramatic drop in mileage in the winter. In terms of driving habit, I generally shift early to maximize mileage but not in an eccentric way. Granted Ottawa is further north and a little colder than Toronto, but still should not be *that* drastic of a difference, especially considering the "winter" we have had this year.

So I am just asking myself what they could have possibly been doing to get *that* bad mileage.

Though I do find it rather amusing that I was getting better mileage in my car than the HCH.

Kevin

berkley · Feb 24, 2006

Originally posted by Tideland Prius@Feb 21 2006, 11:23 PM
With temperatures lurching from +7 degrees Celsius to -27 in the space of twenty-four hours, and conditions ranging from dry cold to freezing rain, Ottawa's extreme weather is the perfect place to test the limits of CanadianDriver's two long-term Hybrid test vehicles. "If you want to see how a hybrid stands up, this is the place to be," says Paul Williams. Paul relates his experience with the Civic Hybrid, while Grant Yoxon updates the Toyota Prius.

2006 Honda Civic Hybrid

This year's winter in Ottawa is unusual. We lurch from 7 degrees Celsius one day, to -27 the next. We've had rain, snow, freezing rain, fog, slush, ice and the occasional bitterly cold, sunny day. In short, these conditions will be tough on any car, so if you want to see how a hybrid stands up, this is the place to be.
"...So far, we've driven 1,908 kilometres in our Honda Civic Hybrid long-term test car.

It's mostly city driving in the conditions described above. We're seeing 8.7 L/100 km, and filling up with an average of 33-litres of regular gasoline when the electronic gauge gets close to empty. That's an average of 381.6 kilometres per tank, which holds 45 litres of gasoline..."

2006 Toyota Prius

Considering the weather we've experienced in eastern Canada over the last week, I can't help but think the time is right for a leisurely cruise through the Florida Keys. Throw in a week on the beach and two tickets to the Daytona 500 and the conditions would be ideal for car testing.

"...So we were not surprised that our 2006 Toyota Prius long-term tester has not achieved Natural Resources Canada's predicted fuel economy of 4.0 litres per 100 kilometres in the city and 4.2 L/100km on the highway. But we weren't disappointed either. Fuel consumption has ranged from an average of 5.6 L/100 km on a drive from Toronto to Ottawa to 7.2 L/100 km during a week of nasty city driving.

During our best week in the city the Prius consumed 5.2 L/100 km. Our combined fuel consumption figure for the 4,290 kilometres we've put on the car since early January is 6.4 L/100 km."

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So, this illustrates the EPA exactly. Both don't get EPA mileage but clearly, the Prius still gets better mileage than the HCH just like EPA said it would.Â

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berkley · Feb 24, 2006

Tideland:

thanks this confirms my findings too.....it dropped to -12 the other AM! Have you experienced problems with heater?? After a 25 mile/30min trip to work, mine still didn't warm up....have you tried changeing therostats or any other mechnical changes??

also we just turned over 11,000 miles and I haven't noticed any increase in MPG, as mentioned in previous posts...

thanks again-

Frank Hudon · Feb 24, 2006

Originally posted by berkley@Feb 24 2006, 08:02 AM
Tideland:

thanks this confirms my findings too.....it dropped to -12 the other AM! Have you experiencedÂ problems with heater?? After a 25 mile/30min trip to work, mine still didn't warm up....have you tried changeing therostats or any other mechnical changes??

also we just turned over 11,000 miles and I haven't noticed any increase in MPG, as mentioned in previous posts...

thanks again-

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your a perfect candidate for a rad blocker. If your in the cold climate area of the country you can block it off and reap benifits both in FE and interior heat.

Tideland Prius · Feb 25, 2006

me? heater? no. We don't drop below zero here haha.

These past few mornings we've been hovering around the freezing mark (still positive though) and the engine's warm quite soon actually. Although it was partially warm from the day before and the fact that I leave the heater off for the first... ooh 10 mins so I can let the engine shut off at lights.

Works though since I just refuelled and my calculated average was 4.47L/100km (~53mpg) with the MFD showing 4.7L/100km (50mpg)

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