I don expect for it to give me that much on a depleted main battery I expected it to just use it in conjunction with ice
Which you can do - as I said earlier - use the EV/HV button to save your battery for when it provides the most benefit. This, plus the larger space available to store re-generated energy does mean the the PIP gets better mileage than a regular one. It's just in your particular use case - 200 miles of daily driving with only one charge - the amount it can assist is limited. Still, it's not like there is anything else out there that will do substantially better. The Volt might, but its extra electric range is offset by considerably worse performance on ICE. An all-electric would be great, but short of a Tesla with one of the biggest battery packs, there isn't anything else that's going to really offer better mileage than what you bought.
I had one trip in August, each way was 250 miles. I had one charge to start the trip. First leg, read out was 64 MPG. Second leg 63 MPG. 95 degrees out, so used Air Cond. each way. Interstate driving 65-75 MPH. not to bad! At least I think it was pretty good. The average with my 2005 prius was about 50-52 MPG, this is on the exact same route. Enjoy your new car! When you learn all the in and outs of the plug-in, I think you will love it!
My usual monthly driving includes 8 trips of 90 miles and the rest between 12-15 miles daly just bombing around, going to the gym and other errands. So far this moth I am averging 93 mpg/mpg e or what ever you call it. Charging my PIP as my times as I can. My 2010 Prius only averaged 52 mpg.
Guys, lay off on OP please. He thought he would get 95 MPGe according to the EPA sticker. It's an easy mistake to make. This is why this MPGe business is ridiculous. EPA should've just had kWh/mile. iPhone ? - now Free
The PiP will blend the two, if that is what you mean by 'in conjunction', but that still depletes the HV battery. Once it is depleted, the PiP will get approximately the same mpg as a regular Prius. The blending will extend the distance it takes to deplete the battery, but it doesn't actually save any significant amount of gasoline compared to running pure EV until depletion, followed by pure gas the rest of the trip. It the dealer's sales staff informed you incorrectly, I'd suggest going back to re-educate them. And do so in a loud enough voice for other customers to hear. I also hate that type of sticker. But I suspect some of the salesdroids intentionally make this 'mistake', or otherwise encourage buyers to believe it. Even certain PC members have pushed this interpretation. And of course, some salesdroids are uninformed enough to actually believe it too.
PiP is now CHEAPER to LEASE then a Regular Prius... $7300 off the top of cost when leasing...making it a better lease rate then reg prius. Buying and "hoping" to get 100% of tax rebates is not nearly as good IMO. Leasing now is best deal to date on a PiP and then you can simply buy the car at lease end if you want to keep it, or by then the new GEN 2015 model will be out. Dan
I wish there was some way we could rent the pip for 2-3 days to see how it could accommodate our lifestyle No rental agency or even toyta rental have pip
Wish they would sell them in KS... OP, good luck with your PiP. There are good threads here to help you improve results.
I know for a fact the prius lift back 2010 model was extremely reliable because I drove it 180,000 miles has anyone drove similar numbers on a pip for battery life?
I don't think there are to many people who would drive 180,000 miles in 18 months who would buy a pip! 10,000 miles a month is a lot!
Well thats 82,350 miles in 18 months. I did not say it was impossible to put 180,000 miles in 18 months, I just said that it is really a lot of miles and most people would not be putting 180,000 miles on in 18 months. So pretty unlikely anyone would have feed back on battery's yet.
Thanks for everyone who replied this was my first post and I am looking forward spending a lot of time here
MPGe takes account of electricity while MPG ignores it. It took me 66% EV ratio to reach 99.4 MPGe. The car displayed about 190 MPG (1,239 miles / 6.5 gallon). See the Top 20 MPGe thread to see some of the amazing achievements. Top 20 MPGe | PriusChat