Gurgle, weak heater.

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Marcilla Smith, Oct 11, 2024.

  1. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    Gotcha. Well, in regards to that 2007 check for oil consumption (just pull the dipstick yourself, it's not like the selling dealer will have done it)

    It's about the right age to have hybrid battery issues, and this time of year most people forget to check the air conditioner, which makes it the right season to dump cars that have climate issues.
     
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    Thank you for the advice!

    Is there a thread, video, or other source of information recommended when checking out a car, specifically a Prius, specifically Gen 2?

    As for the battery, I have the OBDLink MX+. If I stick that in, I should be able to check the cells, shouldn't I? A Toyota tech told me that if they're all in the same voltage range, that's a good sign. Is that true?

    What am I looking for on the dipstick for oil consumption? Just the level?

    And to check the A/C, just run the A/C? But as cold as it is in NC, can I tell the difference that way?
     
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    I haven't owned that model of the car, so for the most part I'll defer to others with more specific expertise.

    With regards to the dipstick- some generation 2 cars had oil consumption issues, and that's certainly the kind of problem people like to trade-in. So pull the dipstick and see if the car is grossly low- if so that's the kind of red flag where you just walk away right then, it just isn't worth another minute of your time. (There are many generic youtubes showing how to read a dipstick. Bring a bit of paper towel or rag.)

    Running engines without sufficient oil levels accelerates wear, sometimes dramatically and/or suddenly. Also the oil going out the exhaust causes the catalytic converter to work doubletime+ to clean up the mess, and it can be overwhelmed and clogged. So when you find it low, it probably isn't the first time it has been low, be suspicious.

    If the oil level is normal? well possibly they just changed the oil. Some dealers just do that to all the cars, and if so this could mask a problem, but it could also be fine. Can't make a determination in that case.

    Nobody offers useful warranties on cars that old, so you do need to check some of the basics yourself. That's the same on any car.

    I know that the battery ECU looks for a voltage differential between cells as the primary determinant in declaring "this battery is dead" but there's more to it than that. Again I'd let others give you better details.

    There must be some youtubes out there with some generation 2-specific buyers guides, but I couldn't say which ones are the good ones.

    I wish you even more luck.
     
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    If I may be excused for veering my own thread off course, I just checked out that '07. Overall, I think I can work with it for $3K.

    The exterior paint is heavily worn and there's a hole in the side of the driver seat. The plastic is cracked around the driver side vents.

    The oil was full, but he says he has to add oil every thousand miles "as with many Toyotas." The engine sounded fine when idling, when driving, and when shutting off and starting up.

    There were no codes and they had last been reset 1070 miles ago.

    Dr. Prius said the cells were all green and within 0.2 volts.

    The dealer says he's been driving it himself for the past six months, but now he has some more Prii in to drive.

    The heat was hot and the air was cold.

    Now for the issues:
    1. Crack in the windshield.
    2. Keyless entry does not work, even after battery change (physical key required).
    3. Center console screen is faded.
    4. Gas gauge intermittently goes out until the tank is filled again (display has already been resoldered, he said).
    That's all I can recall off hand, so for $3K, I think I gotta go for it :: shrugs ::

    PS, I did check Tampa Hybrids, and their cheapest Gen 2 right now is $7K. But admittedly, it's very cute with a John Deere theme going on, if you feel like checking it out.
     
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    What he means is this engine is worn out like most $3k Toyotas.

    More likely a fuel tank sensor failing.

    Is it over 225,000 miles? With the interior wear it sounds like a 300k or higher car. You usually don't see faded paint on these cars except for the rear spoiler.

    Codes are not routinely reset because they don't routinely come up. I might be afraid of a failing or clogged catalytic converter due to the oil burning.

    Have you called ISH Hybrids and asked what they would do for your gen3?
     
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    Not much, it don't sound like. He says he thinks something major must be going on with the cooling system, and so he's done all that he can do. I don't know what would be going on, though. The radiator, water pump, and fan assembly have been replaced, when I hand pumped distilled water through the heater core, it came out clean, and the temps are like 204 max on the interstate and lower when idling.
     
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    You have another blown hg and clearly it was bad when put in. The fact you can stay under 204f on the highway as long as it has coolant in it means the cooling system is ok BUT the hg problem is advanced. It is pushing combustion gasses into the coolant causing over pressure and air bubbles. I would skip the 2007 Prius as well.
     
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