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grandson jumped 05 prius, no start, main fuse blown

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by jtuchol, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. xliderider

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    With all due respect, I don't think it would be a normal type of circuit that can be repaired with a normal soldering iron. ;)
     
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    Think again! there's a post on luscious garages facebook page showing a blown track on a normal circuit board that could be easily repaired by most electronics gurus with a normal $10 soldering iron and a simple wire link! .. I would attempt the repair myself in a heartbeat if needed, might not work but hey nothing to lose :)
     
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    yea, tried that last time just melted it more than what it was.




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    I will look it up , I just bought inverter & fuse box ( the hole thing) dropped right off @ my door step all for a $110.00 dollars not a bad price in my book.
     
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    ahh yea still a shorted component in there somewhere then, If I can track down the old one from the car I was working on I will do an autopsy just for interest sake.

    $110 is cheap as
     
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    It took some searching on car-part.com there are a lot of them out there I got lucky this guy just wanted to get this out of his inventory ( smart guy!) but alot of these guys think they have the last one around & think they can get it, a lot of the local yards around me thought that too. I called lkq a national salvage parts co. & they just got one locally & would not hook me up with the local yards here ( there call center was in Texas) she told me that I had to drive 30 miles to there place to get the price! I told her that is one of the stupidest things said! she really didn't care & hung up. I will teach my son inlaw today how to swap this out. I still got the old one from last time. I did take the bottom plate off of the bottom & found the burnt components they look like mico circuts not going to attempt to fix not that good @ electronics repair.
     
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    Ok , just got done replaced Inverter, main fuse & found another fuse I think it was etc fuse which was blown & cleared codes got another code now it is P0AEE, & got red trinangle still no start never had that code before so this is new to me the start button will not go green or the ready lite on dash either, I tried to clear code it is a hard code & come back right away, kinda stuck now going to do some more reading I guess.
     
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    DTC P0AEE means an inverter temp sensor is showing abnormal readings. Did you purge the air out of the inverter coolant loop? Do you see fluid turbulence in the reservoir?
     
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    LKQ is the "future" of auto dismantling. :rolleyes:
     
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    yea we got that to go away but other codes, got these & triangle to disappear aft resetting codes a couple of times, swaped out inverter before this BUT getting check engine lite on , brake lite on , abs on & no ready lite & key botton just amber no green the only thing that keeps coming up is code B2799 which is the emoblizer for the key tried both keys no luck. can't run car for a long time don't want to kill hybrid battery so do a couple of differnt things & than let it rest. we had a spare hv ecu & tried that no luck either.
     
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    just read your thread on the hv ecu replacement! boy am I glad I didn't try to start car 20 or more times! how do I register ID number for icu? I got a mini vci on my lap top but have not used it yet. I bought it to use on my 2001 Prius will it work on this car?
     
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    well just went over there & jumperd obd 2 plug for 32 mins, got code to clear pulled 12v neg off for a couple of mins & hooked back up that cleared red triangle &imobilizer code still can't get car to go into the ready mode but the battery ( hybird) is about down to 1 bar now was going to put on grid charger before trying again, 12 v is new with battery charger on it ( 13.8 v) going to check the brake switch too. what do you think?
     
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    Do you have a grid charger? 1 bar reading should still be over 210v. I think you'll be ok until you get below 201v
     
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    What are your codes now?


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    yes I bought a grid charger for my 2001 prius person I bought it from said I cad use it on gen 2 prius only thing was his directions for hook up on gen 2 are vague, I watched video on system & neg. side of battery ( hybird) is the one with 2 relays don't go by color of wires, ( my 2001 is color coded ) I will check voltage again battery seems to recover a little bit aft sitting, ( yes I do have rubber electricians gloves that I always use) the thing I can't figure out is why the drain on hybird battery goes on when it is not even coming on? ( when were not in the ready mode) I can hear the pump running for the inverter cooling I thought that runs off of the 12v system am I wrong on that?
     
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    no codes! aft I cleared all, no codes, will not go into ready mode. ( codes where due to previous issues)
     
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    Okay. What device are you using to read codes? Depending on what it is, may not be able to read every module.


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    a scanner I bought at sears, I have a mini vci it is a p.o.s. everytime I try to use it it is looking for password & a bunch of other info to work! I bought it off of e-bay had to get computer geek to install, doesn't work!
     
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    Okay yeah. I understand that. I AM a "computer geek", among other things, including a mechanic, and Techstream gave me trouble at first too. The sears scanner is probably only going to help with the standard check engine light (which our cars do have) and with the big red triangle that indicates a hybrid system problem. Neither of which you have. I would take a shot in the dark and guess you might find a code in the hybrid ECU or the smart key ECU that would lead you to another problem caused by reversing jumper cables. Or you might find a computer that isn't responding at all meaning it's blown or its fuse is blown. But in my opinion you're going to need the techstream/mini vci cable in order to do that. I wish you were closer and could just use mine and/or swap parts from my 05


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    1. If you are serious about fixing this Prius, you first must get Mini VCI to work. Disconnect all Internet access (turn off the wireless on your laptop) while using that software. Have your computer geek reinstall Mini VCI again if you cannot figure this out.
    2. If you cannot get Mini VCI to work, then tow the car to a Toyota dealer and pay big $$$ to fix the problem, or to your local salvage yard and be done with it.

    The above list constitutes your available choices. Good luck.

    By the way, a grid charger intended for 2G Prius may not work on Classic Prius since the former has 28 modules while the latter has 38 modules, hence the Classic battery voltage is much higher: 201.6V nominal for 2G and 273.6V nominal for Classic. The charging voltage typically needs to be around 10% higher than those values.
     
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    well, I did some more reading in the service manual & did a sequence of operation, I think what I will do is swap out the power source ecu that is under the dash on the drivers side up behind the steering wheel everything goes through there before it sends signal to hv ecu to start system, I did test on brake switch that test out ok, so I can get the part cheap off of e-bay. I called toyota first to give them my vin to make sure the part would fit he informed me that we had to go off of the production date & year & found that the power souce ecu for the 2005 was only used for a short time sept 04 thru nov o5 and that will only work with that part number for that production dates only! he told me that toyota can not even get that part any more ( 89618-47011) that it was discontinued, so that makes me wonder if they had issues with these early ones that they changed to something else.( different part no. ) the biggest problem now is how to get the dash taken apart to put this part in.