Gorebal Warming

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 14 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]405599[/snapback]</div>

:lol:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 14 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]405599[/snapback]</div>

Golly gee, Doctor Berman, all this science stuff is bunk! Theory Schmerey! I hope you practice medicine according to the four humors. We all know that the human body is filled with four basic substances, called Four humours, which are held in balance when a person is healthy. All diseases and disabilities result from an excess or deficit in one of these four humors. If only we had more doctors practicing according to the four humors there'd be no cancer! If only we had people like T.D. Lysenko dictating American Science policy we'd all be so much better.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 14 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]405599[/snapback]</div>

Apparently you you do not listen to nor do your own research because you've been saying these things for quite some time now and the data has been presented to you or the link to where you can find the data yet you say the same things over and over again.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MegansPrius @ Mar 14 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]405616[/snapback]</div>

I don't know; Dr. Berman seems pretty humourless to me.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ Mar 14 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]405621[/snapback]</div>

I like him. He is like the shadow me. My arch enemy that is the opposite of me in nearly every respect. Except when we find common ground. Then it gets scary. lol

 

What was the latest blurb, instead of El Nino we are suffering from El Ninya?? as the pacific is cooling?? so this means the east will have stronger and more fequent Hurricanes?????

Our weather men have stated on the news a 60% chance of rain on Mon. hmm no rain.. Sounds like people are talking out of their butts again...

I at this point believe MAN isnt the cause of GW. I will agree with others that MAN may play a SMALL part, in the big picture until proven otherwise..

Becides everyone that is running around and screamming about GW are following Scientists that are making assumtions, theories & computer models show as accurate..
We are HUMAN we make mistakes...

Good question!!

 

Ice core samples for one. But I am sure this has been mentioned ad nauseum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 14 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]405599[/snapback]</div>

Berman, you're a moron who clearly doesn't read what others bother to post... Climate versus Weather

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 14 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]405661[/snapback]</div>

I have actually computed that. However, if I tell you, my ability to profit on my a priori knowledge will be greatly diminished.

 

Man this is good stuff here......

However, it is almost a metaphysical certitude that this absolutely insane UFO story from Agence France-Presse will get attention from a media clamoring for anything that promotes more global warming hysteria

I would tend to believe the second quote It goes on to say that its not the first time the IPCC has changed the reports..

 

We'll be receiving our free copies of the DVD soon. A teacher came in today to say he got a confirmation e-mail that he'll be getting his DVD sometime in March. I also received a confirmation e-mail. I'll be barcoding my copy and adding it to the library collection for anyone to check out if they wish.

BTW you'd be surprised how many students don't doubt Global Warming. They do the primary source research and draw their own conclusions. Then again, none of them are registered to a political party and have no party loyalty or political bias.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Mar 14 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]405763[/snapback]</div>

Its not really about political parties, People just use that as a crutch.. What DVD? "Oh no not the Gorebal Warming Brainwashing DVD" the one that plants subliminal messages into those who watch it?? :lol: :lol:

Hey that sounds like a good script for a movie...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hycamguy07 @ Mar 14 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]405772[/snapback]</div>

You say we're brainwashed, we say you're delusional (a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence, especially as a symptom of psychiatric disorder). :lol:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(F8L @ Mar 14 2007, 10:19 PM) [snapback]405790[/snapback]</div>

a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence, "So you say" again Im guessing you have these symptoms especially as a symptom of psychiatric disorder..

You believe in mens theroies, tests, models, hypothosis's ect. Even when theres proof that the paperwork has been doctored? You sir are the ones that would be concidered delusional ..

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(livelychick @ Mar 14 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]405480[/snapback]</div>

Nevertheless these are still some pretty impressive temps. . .

"Then it got colder at night than even they had anticipated, possibly as low as -103 degrees outside their tent and -58 inside. In cold like that, they couldn't do much to warm up Arnesen's battered toes."

Wildkow

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lywyllyn @ Mar 14 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]405670[/snapback]</div>

If you are talking about dating ice core samples by ring count that is highly inaccurate.

Wildkow

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 15 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]405974[/snapback]</div>

No scientist will tell you that we know everything absolutely. And as a physician, you should certainly be aware that science is always changing and that our knowledge expands as new discoveries are made. For instance, you might be using surgical techniques today that would have been risky or ill-advised 20 years ago.
What scientists agree upon (and yes, you can always find a few dissenters) is that our climate (and oceans) have been getting warmer; that the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has been increasing and that CO2 is a major contributor to warming; and that CO2 in the atmosphere is largely due to antropogenic causes. Our BEST science TODAY suggests that we should be doing whatever we can to reduce CO2 emissions.
Are there conflicting opinions on the magnitude of the effects on global warming? Absolutely. Is it unanimous, for instance, that hurricane severity is increasing as a function of global warming. Certainly not. Is there disagreement on what mitigating effects any measures we take will have? You bet. But all scientists can do is do the best they can do analyze the data that they have, because our policy makers rely upon this science to make decisions that have profound effects on us all.
We can certainly talk about the evidence that scientists use such as ice cores, sediment samples, etc. But there is no point in even attempting to have a discussion with people who enter the debate with a clear agenda of totally discrediting global warming without even trying to understand the evidence; who totally disparage the scientific profession, and who use phrases such as "gorebal warming". If you are so convinced that global warming is just a liberal conspiracy to raise your taxes, there is nothing that I can say to convince you otherwise.
Right now I am in the middle of writing a paper analyzing the Navy's method of predicting the effects of sonar noise on marine mammals. I have no problem explaining the scientific rationale, but I have to make this hold up to the scrutiny of lawyers so I am getting a headache. When answering a question from dbermanmd is a break in an otherwise stressful day, you know your job is tough!