^ Corywn - Bill Gates is alright - so is William Buffet, and Richard Branson. I know that was directed at Treb, but hope that acknowledging that non-religious businessman can do charitable things will help defuse things as that's the direction this thread was going the past day. Tonight I will likely bring up religion to a friend concerning a situation - something I rarely do. We will definitely be friends and not have hurt feelings at the end of the call. I will definitely point out being glad to no end we can disagree without this attempt to beat the other side into total submission. Another thing on that phone call I will say I won't say in this thread is acknowledging many shortcomings of people with my beliefs - that's because her response is not to beat the living crap out of my beliefs like in threads like this.
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