GM is in ICU... news at 11:00

I'm thinkin more on the lines of a discover "if they will take it" and get my 1% back = 300.00!

Or even airline miles!

 

Ah.. bummer... so far my broker has treated me nice... I'd loose too much money to travel that far, when I already get a good price here....

But I'm thinkin about ya!....
Seriouslyl... Toyota will serve you and your family much better... they hit the mark whether in economic feast or famine, because they are sensitive to market.

 

Ok.. so suppose I could pay cash.. how would I handle the transaction?
Do you mean pull cash off the card?

I doubt they would give you cudos for using cash... and then I really best pay it off before due.. the interest rate is rediculous.

So how did you use a card?.. and why did you choose to use it?

 

If your interested.. my broker is getting my 2006 for 500 under MSRP.... but you would need to see what arrangements you could make for delivery to your house unless you can here for pickup.
I know he has agreed to arrange delivery to folks home as far as Seattle area.. which is about 250 miles, but I don't know how much farther he could arrange... For all I know there is no limit... you or I would need to ask.

 

Yep... I just wanted the points too... I figure the 1% points they give would be an extra 300.00 credit on my account.... I could do the same... all I have to do is find out what they will take balance transfers from and make the loan on that medium.
This little plot may not work.... :huh:

thanks..


Opps.. come to think of it.. I don't think they give cudos on balance transfers!
They must have played this game before! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Still off subject a bit.....
Ha!.. I know this is not very classy to respond to yourself, but that way I don't have to repeat myself.....

If you wanted delivery within a couple of hundred miles it would cost nothing to very little..... to the 3 surrounding states.. anywhere in Washington "like Spokane", Oregon, or Idaho... would cost about 450.00 to deliver.. farther than that starts to become non cost effective.

 

Ask some friends of even get out the phone book and look for a "car broker or locator"... they should be able to pull strings and get you what you want from where you want it!

 

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Yea.... agreed.....

Yea.. thats a distraction all right.. the big powerful unions that protect those that should be fired!..... this is an "excuse" for their failure!...... not a reason!.. they just need someone besides thier own executive decisions to blame.

This also is true.... Its so pathetic that its almost to the point that we need to start at scratch and start over.. or just let someone else make our cars!

The American companies don't want to pay the price for a total revamping of tools and equipment.... it would affect the profits too much and the profit share!.. so because they play it safe, they may be loosing it all!

The best thing the American companies could do is quit trying to play catchup.. they are already toooooo far behind.. they need to do the same game Toyota has done.... which is to come in with a whole new technology... and not do it half brass... that too has been thier big mistake!

If your going to do the miraculous and step out of the boat to walk on water.... you better do it with all your heart with full faith, or don't do it at all.. The faint hearted better just play it safe and stay in the boat, its what they have done the last decade anyway!

That should not be a problem!.... "unless they have been dipping into the retirement banks?"

Well thats the sad state of affairs folks!......
What made GM great once upon a time was that it brought new cutting edge products to the market!.. they have since fallen asleep!... They got too fat and lazy!

Now either they need to die gracefully or apply the same principles that made them great in the first place!... again.. bring new cutting edge technology to the market!... But I they have quite a challenge to compete against the asians.... they need a whole new game! ..... Toyota is already too far ahead in playing this game.... and they are not slowing down!

GM has spent years "covering up" technology while the Asians have spent years revealing it!

 

I don't think there is a danger of being replaces as long as we are updating and/or becoming very skillful in what we do. Its when we get lazy and don't care about our profession that someone else who cares more passes us up and our company want to hire them because they can do a better job. Whats funny is they can do a better job for less pay.... thats the really painful part. The days of showing up to work and doing the same thing for 20+ years without advancing are over.

They don't because we live in crisis mode.. nothing gets addressed unless its a crisis!
We are not proactive in our decisions. We don't see in the future. If we drove that way, we would not make it 5 miles without a wreck!
The fat cat executives in the lofty leather chairs will not approve funds that will take steaks off of their own table!

We must look at the traffic ahead and alter our course accordingly!
We are too greedy to allow improvements to be made for a need that doesn't exist yet! That cost money man!.... What are we thinkin?
We put out fires rather than prevent them.
Big Corporation usually "sucks"... they make all of thier decisions while out of touch with the workers who know the needs and earn thier bread and butter. When they "do" ask the workers opinions, they have already made thier decisions beforehand and so only appease them by making them feel like they were part of the decision making process. But its all an illusion.

GM now has a big fire to put out.....
I hope GM has lots of water.

 

Thats my first memory of GM screwing up too.... true.. my hats off to them for trying to do something new... but they did the same old trick as they are "still" doing today !.... Releasing half baked cakes!!!!!

If you're going to do something new... do it with all your might..... and then some!... or don't do it at all!... Its almost like opening a new company..if you do it half way.. it will crash!.... They forgot the basic principles of success because they thought they could never fall.. they were much too powerful and big... "yea they thought"!

It will always take more energy to break into something new!.. but instead they did a "token" of the diesel to try and steal the market.... the market trusted them as they rode off of thier good name, but then the market got so burn't they were always wary after that.

Gm thought they were so big, so powerful, that they could take and chance and if it failed.... they could just bag out or get bailed out.... either way it was trashy business. I don't feel they ever took a risk because they dodged the pain when it failed. They should have learned and attempted again to break a new market. Maybe they just admitted they were "loosers?"

If they would have done it right the first time... there may not even be gas engines today!... they could all be diesel by now! True, diesel releases soot, but far far less harmful gases. You can let a diesel run in the garage with you at the same time and the exhause till not kill and poison you... try that with gas and it will affect you 100 times faster with C01 "carbon monoxide"!
It takes far less refining to produce diesel and those engines can be modified to run alternative fuels. But here we are, still running around using poisonous Gasoline!

GM dropped the ball rather than making it right?

They should have tested it furthur instead of jumping the gun and try to steal the market with a half baked cake.

I know this sounds like a GM bashing and its getting old... "I agree".. but the song keeps on playing until folks get on the right page..... I can't believe people defend GM and its philosophy......
I'm convinced...... all those who support GM cars, have never had anything different.

I rarely hear stories of people trying Toyota or other foreign cars and then going back to GM.... its always stories of finally leaving and breathing the fresh air and never going back!...

America is speaking with thier pocket books!....

Look at Toyota now.... I believe they have been dabbling with hydrogen technology for about 5 years or so... "correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm going by memory" and they still have not released thier hydrogen car! Why?... because they know its far more damaging to release a premature project than than to give an image of success that's only a beautiful bubble that pops and disappears and the fantasy is gone!

 

Wow!.. nice article!...and to quote the quote:

That just about sizes it up!!! Wow!... perfect!