Getting ready to buy a new to me Gen 3 (2011)

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  1. OptimusPriustus

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    i installed 3rd party wide angle camera right after we bought the car. Camera is wireles and rather small so i attached it to rear window bottom section (inside) with foam tape and connected to reverse light wires. It has own (4”?) display which is connected to cigarette lighter socket. It is currently attached to dash behind the wheel and with foam tape:)

    i am pretty happy with this camera and the visibility is surprisingly good given that camera is behind tinted window. Key thing is to have camera as close to window as possible and preferrably seal it to window. I cut a large ring from black rubber foam which is my ”seal”.

    Once R is selected camera is up quite fast, maybe within 2s or so. Obviously if window is dirty then picture is affected. My camera is not available in U.S. but i am sure you can find good option easily. Wireless camera’s are everywhere and technology is very mature. I paid 75Eur for my camera and it’s definitely worth every penny. Installing is easy thanks to wireless connection.
     
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    I now have purchased the car and getting familiar with it. So far I like it. However I have gotten a TPMS malfunction indication. Tire light blinks for a while, then goes on steady. I understand it indicates one or more TPMS sensors not communicating. My '07 is still on the originals (!!!), but this 2011 is having issues with TPMS, I guess. I have only had the car for about 10 days. In any case, I would like to replace the sensors myself. Question is how to reprogram them? I have a Carista OBD2 dongle and a Car Scanner iOs app. Is there a way to get this to work for at least reading TPMS data? I would not mind buying another app or a fairly inexpensive scan tool. What is the wisdom on this? I see aftermarket sensors on Amazon for around $30 for a set of 4. If I knew which sensor(s) it is, I could make a decision to buy an OEM (Denso?) sensor. But I really do not want to throw a bunch of money at this problem as I pretty regularly monitor my tire pressure (because I am old). I do appreciate a well functioning TPMS, however and would like to keep it going.

    TIA!
     
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    I think that autozone, or napa, or other auto stores will program them for free.
    Perhaps walfart? You could call and ask...
     
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    Car scanner won’t write the unique sensor id into the tpms ecu. Most tire shops have Autel tpms tools to write the ids into the vehicle.

    Techstream can write the ids as well. Many buy the hacked Techstream and install on an offline xp or win7 laptop. Or they buy Professional access from Toyota and download the current updated scanner legally.

    I would shop small tire shops and find a good price for installing four sensors and updating the car with you supplying the sensors. Around here I could have it all done for $100 including the 315mhz sensors from Amazon.

    Note: If you have a scanner that can read the pressures, simply deflate one tire at a time while monitoring live pressures. You will see the tires that respond and the tires that don’t. However it makes sense to change all four at once rather than whack a mole one at a time.

    Techstream
    prius tpms 2023-09-18.jpeg

    Id3 & 4 Sensors pic.jpeg

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    Or at least wait till new tires are needed?

    By cleaning it periodically, say every 50k miles. See top two links in my signature (on a phone turn it landscape to see signatures).

    A steady regimen of 50K cleanings is the only way to keep the system functioning optimum, ie: sufficent flow, unfiormly delivered to all 4 cylinders, and properly cooled. This is not Toyota's finest engineering.
     
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    The scanner I have (Carista) does not read TPMS, it seems. I do have a fake techstream cable I bought back in 2017 when I bought my '07 Gen 2. I never installed it and never tried it. Just didn't have the need. Maybe now is the time... I have a few laptops I could use as dedicated machines. I have heard lots of horror stories about that cable and (hacked?) software. In any case, I was looking at the same Marsflex mentioned above. They look ok. I also see an Autel Maxi TPMS for around $150 on ebay. I may consider that if the Techstream experiment gets to a certain frustration point.

    What about the sensors that you program with the IDs of the ones in the car now? Those should not need to be learned by the car's ECM. It's amazing that I have not needed to deal with this on my 2007 Gen 2. That thing is amazing.

    Thank you for the replies. I am finding my way through this...

    As for EGR, I will be cleaning it, but in the spring. Can not work on cars in the cold (too old, my hands don't work in the cold anymore).
     
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    Realize tpms replacement on this car is a one time thing. I would not buy one of a kind tpms cloning tools and sensors.

    The special Autel scanner you need to clone your existing sensors along with the expensive Mx sensors would cost more than simply going to Discount Tire or Costco and having them turnkey the whole job. At least double or triple cost of simply buying the sensors and having a small tire shop install them.

    You have to read the tpms ecu or take out the old sensors to even begin the Mx cloning process for a dead sensor.

    Getting a Techstream going just for this is questionable although it allows full bidirectional testing across multiple systems in the car and its scan data is complete. If you need diy for future needs like brake booster setup and calibration, hv battery repair, egr step testing, hvac repairs etc or simply for reading the specialized Toyota hybrid codes, a high end scanner or Techstream should be in your toolbox.
     
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    I've been around these parts before...never hearduv it.

    What is this you speak of?
     
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    The head gasket software fix. Only for European Prii.
     
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    Software stop- leak.
     
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    The Autel MaxiTPMS TS508WF tool is capable of reprogramming the car's ECM to new, non-cloning sensors (as well as cloning the cloneable ones). This machine goes for around $150, which may be cheaper than the sanity I may loose getting Techstream to work with the fake cable. I am not sure about that, but it seems $150 is pretty close to the pain level I am willing to take in order to avoid the chineesium techstream deal. Still thinking about it. Also, the tool I will have is going to work for other cars and situations. Having Techstream working is very tempting, however, seeing how I pretty much run Toyota cars these days...
     
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    How often do you plan on using the $150 tool? If you plan on using it often, it
    may be worth it. You could charge a small fee(25% less) to hlep recoup the money.
    If you don't plan on using it often, you're wasting your money.
     
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    I don't have current plans to use it more than this once, but once I have it, the usage will manifest itself (build it and they'll come). I have friends, family, etc. Also, I would probably pay a similar amount for a fee to have the new sensors programmed into the car. I am a big believer in buying a tool for the job as the tools usually pay for themselves with first use. I am thinking of trying to get Techstream going first. That seems like a good thing to have in the tool belt. If that drives me $150 worth of crazy, I'll get the Autel.
     
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    see post #6
     
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    Do you know how to check the current version? I bought mine a few years ago, but I doubt the dealership updated anything - they were real good about hiding defects, but I managed to check everything major.
     
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    Techstream and some Bluetooth scanners can read it.

    Here is Car Scanner app on its initial screen
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    Same app on ECU Identifiers screen (partial)
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