Gen4, is it worth it?

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  1. royrose

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    I guess I wasn't clear about what I meant by benefit. I was thinking of the cost of ownership and whether the fuel effeciency of the hybrid system pays for itself over time. Since the Gen 4 won't have a big fuel saving over the Gen 3, the cost of ownership will be a lot higher for a new Gen 4 over a used Gen 3. That's why I asked what other factors would make him consider a Gen 4.

    So, when I said "benefit" I was thinking cost effectiveness, not the benefit of improved handling, AWD, etc.
     
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    this wasn't directed at you, it's the people who keep posting the same thing over and over. no need to feel guilty.:D
     
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    And then everybody dummied up. :ROFLMAO:
     
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    Not me...I still think the Gen IV is butt ugly. :whistle:
     
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    I disagree. The gen1 earned that title. To paraphrase another commenter; "It is just a butt ugly Echo with a spoiler on the trunk."
     
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    Ugly is not an exclusive...just different butt.
     
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    hey, if you have an opinion, why not just keep posting it every 10 or 15 minutes? it's like stuffing the ballot box.;)
     
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    Where? I didn't see it, anywhere, where Toyota said it officially. Which is why I asked here.
     
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    look who is taking...
     
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    :oops:
     
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    okay, i won't make you look through all the posts, there are no answers to any of your questions yet.:cool:
     
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  13. cyclopathic

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    I guess the bottom line just MPG doesn't cut it anymore. I drive x2 times over national average, and burn 45-50gal a month. 10% improvement will save me 4.5-5gal or $10 in current gas prices.. peanuts comparing to other costs.
     
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    prius rarely pays for itself, it's more of a lifestyle thing.
     
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    Tell that to the taxi drivers!
     
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    they are part of the 'rare' segment, but even they aren't all in agreement, and the numbers at 2 bucks a gallon vs 4 must be very interesting.
     
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    beg to differ. I ran numbers and the cheapest TOC car in US is Mitsubishi Mirage. Prius C was right there, that's why we picked it up. If you drive alot and keep a car for more than 5 years it is one of the cheapest options out there
     
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    drive 'a lot' is the key, and not the u.s. average. i'll put you in the 'rare' segment. but the 'cheapest option' is still different than the one that 'pays for itself'.

    so what exactly are you trying to say in post #78? perhaps i misunderstood.
     
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    that limits it to people who make money by driving: cabbies, pizza delivery guys, etc
     
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    Prius has other merits as well. Reliability, utility and more. And lifestyle as mentioned already.
    How are you weighing possible magor and minor repairs over 5-6 years into a spreadsheet? And the agony when it is down?
    Those spreadsheets of TCO can be very accurate if filled-in retroactively after selling the car! and with the selling price included.
    Spreadsheets with loopholes and question marks are simply do not do it for me, but maybe it is just me.

    AND 15-23% improvement in fuel economy on the king of MPG (depending on model and test cycle) IS a great achievement not a marginal improvement.
     
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