Gen 5 info?

I just thought - we've got a different radio here (without knobs or buttons!!!) - but I wonder if it's got better camera quality? It's definitely got moving lines - like my YouTube shows.

 

No moving lines here, I went through all the settings but to no avail.
I don't think the camera's themselves are all that different. From what I have seen most reversing camera's are of the NTSC variant with a 480i resolution which should be adequate for the purpose.
I think it is down to the image processing. The radio is very basic except for the DAB+ receiver which is almost mandatory nowadays. They might have skimped a bit on the media system but it isn't as bad as the press tells you when reading reviews. They claim that the responsiveness is poor, it actually isn't. They also claim that the satnav is slow, it isn't the fastest but it calculates tree routes before letting you choose.

Yes, it would have been nice if Toyota would have included a modem in the car for the connectivity, using a mobile hotspot can be a bit iffy, my USB WiFi hotspot is just a bit to slow so the car complains about the connection. This isn't however the fault of the car.

 

Some part of the confusion is that various Posters are dealing with various Toyota companies, each working under different laws and marketing expectations.

I am In the USA, it says so in my Location.
Tideland Prius is in Canada, written in his Location
alanclarkau is in Australia, it hints that in his name and states it in his Location.
meeder may well be in the Netherlands, the first hit for Doesburg in Google is there. So I can't be sure, but it WOULD explain why the equipment in his Prius varies from ours.

 

That will probably be a difference. Toyota uses different specs in different territories.

 

Cars are hideously expensive here in the Netherlands.
The top spec Prius starts at around €36.000 which is the same spec level as my Corolla which costs the same.
That is close to USD 40.000.
Taxes are largely based on CO2 emissions so the hybrids do have an advantage there.
To put it into perspective, a standard Mustang V8 (450bhp with manual transmission) costs around €110.000 which is about USD 121.000

 

If they make the temperature units adjustable on the dash display, I'm in!

 

Just getting luddite again: go back 30~40 years, and start talking about camera quality on the radio?

 

Still waiting for the gen 5

gen1 2001-2003
Gen2 2004-2009
Gen3 2010-2015
Gen4 2016-2021

 

1997 to 2003 is six years
2004 to 2009 is six years
2010 to 2015 is six years
2016 to 2021 is six years

If I was a betting man, (and I am not) I would bet 2022

 

My worry is that unlike previous last generation years we haven’t even gotten a peep from Toyo, normally there would be a teaser by now and many times the outgoing generation becomes even harder to locate in specific trims as the outgoing year goes on.

The 2015/2016 changeover was a strange drought around here

 

I'd bet release in 2022 as a 2023 model, a delay of one year over the usual cycle.

 

Wonder if they will synchronize the Prime and Prius generation years?

prime is due for refresh as well

 

What makes you believe there will be a non-Prime version of Prius? We have been watching interest in the regular model drop and the plug-in model rise. Knowing Toyota will be introducing another Prime and 2 new electric-only vehicles this year, it simply doesn't make sense to continue with the split. Notice how well Sienna and Venza are selling as hybrid-only choices? It's time for Prius to again to lead the way for the next stage of phaseout.

 

You may be right.

Tranlated from bestcarweb.jp (about a month ago): "To distinguish the model with the newest technology, the next-gen Prius is likely to have PHV as the main line-up. The conventional un-plugged hybrid model is planned to be left as only the cheap entry-level model and the rest may be all PHV."

If that web site is correct, that entry level non hybrid may only be for the Japanese market.

 

In some territories the Prius has become less popular so I wouldn't be surprised if they wait a little longer with a replacement.
The Corolla hybrid is doing quite ok in a lot of territories and that has 3 body shapes to choose from.

 

A few customers might still prefer the just-drive-it hybrid version. And a spare please.

 

The Chinesium 1000watt 90-250VAC lithium/fla charger sitting in my antique EV cost $79 brand new w/ shipping 2 years ago

The 16amp 110/240Vac duosida EVSE on my Volt was $99

LifePO4 is $100/kwhr

and the size of a 4kwhr battery is 20% of what it was in 2012

Things are fully commoditized the cost to have a PIP style Prius VRS a non plug in is ZERO