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Gen 2 New OEM Toyota Hybrid Battery Replacment April 2023

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by kyg626, Apr 1, 2023.

  1. ColoradoCrow

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    It should fit but Id inspect it in the parking lot to make sure the battery is not damaged before leaving.
     
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    I second that motion. The first one I picked up had apparently been dropped at some point. The plastic cover that goes over the wires along the side of the pack, was broken on one side. Heaven only knows what the inside of the modules was like. The second one we inspected in the parking lot before taking it home. It would really have sucked to have taken the old battery out, then opened the shipping container for the new one, to find the new one broken, Of course, one should always inspect a new part before starting work.
     
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    Does anyone know how long you have to return the core and how long you have to wait for the core to be returned?
     
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    I would've scrapped the car. The battery is $2000. Next up will be the inverter, the ABS module, and then the engine, none of which will be cheap. For $2000 you can get a fairly new ICE engine and another $1000 for a transmission.
     
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    Why the negative Nancy? The ABS module maybe, but as for the others there's no precedent for those to fail early.
     
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    haha having owned a hybrid for a while you know its flaws. I would scrap it and go back to ICE.
     
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    The ABS will fail eventually but the inverter? Or did you mean the inverter pump? That pump will indeed fail every 60k miles or so for an OEM and much less for an aftermarket. Not sure what it costs at a dealer but doing one yourself is just some time plus the cost of the OEM pump and maybe a bottle of coolant. The inverter itself hardly ever fails.
     
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    I mean the inverter and pump. Funny enough my hybrid still has the original inverter and pump at 200k. If its not this, it's that, and that is usually more than what the car is worth or what a new ICE engine is worth.
     
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    First year of driving that car I had the inverter pump replaced. I had the dealer do it and it cost $500.
    If I have to get it replaced again, I would likely do it myself after checking this forum for help.
    The ABS modules is a get on eBay and hope for the best with used part price.

    Every car, you always have car repairs. If you can do it yourself, you can usually do it for reasonable amounts of money. If you go to a shop, you are in trouble. I have heard brake jobs between 1000 and 1200 many years ago. I could replace every brake pad, rotor, and caliper for half that easily locally. Buying parts online, about a third.
     
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    If you compare the ICE and the hybrid side by side, yourr going to have to do more for hybrid and spend more on it. On the 2nd gen hybrids, the ABS module alone is worth as much as the vehicle. If you choose to repair, you'll have to have very specialized skills that resembles that of a millwright, a mechanic, and an electrician.

    knowing its flaws, I have to recommend to people to get rid of the car at the end of its life. Just not worth it to save unless you have the skills to do so which you'll be hardpressed to find.
     
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    I got my new battery yesterday and put the components from the old one on the new one
    Something of crosspost

    Everything look okay. I think I did do everything right but sometimes you want an extra set of eyes
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    I cannot find where this part goes if anyone can remember. Removed it when I was originally looking at the battery.
    Edit: Never mind, found it on a picture and know where it does. Goes in the back.
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    Looking good. Double check every plug is seated all the way. Recheck the torque of your nuts. Make sure your hybrid battery is super clean along with the ductwork. Then once the battery is in the car before you put the plastic pieces and seats back. Reseat the safety plug, make sure it is latched and test drive. once satisfied then re bolt the seats and rear hatch pieces in.
     
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    Today I put the new battery in my car. Got everything back together, tried to start her and got the red triangle again. Panicked thinking I spent $2000 for nothing. Tested it and got the code "p0a0d 350." I had not locked the orange breaker in properly.

    After fixing that and reset codes, she started and moved. Drove her for what I consider the car test loop for me.
    Drove her 11 miles. Makes a lot of noise when there is no sound baffling back there.Trim was not yet back in place but battery was back in car.

    Finished putting all the trim back in the car.
     
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    Of some interest, I received the core as soon as I returned the battery.
     
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    Replaced my battery yesterday. Didn't see this discussion till today. Paid $1640 USD. Though this was a good deal until I saw this post
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    My vehicle stats
    • 2007, original owner with almost 250k miles
    • Replaced
      • Condenser last year. AC is still going strong.
      • Wheel bearing
      • Hatch struts
      • Front and Rear suspension
      • Water pump
      • Coolant Control Valve
      • Spark Plugs
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      • Capacitor for combination meter
      • Windshield
      • and now hybrid battery.
    Here are some photos of my battery replacement.

    The parts' person said that the battery box will not fit in the Prius. I took my Sienna. I learn that this is not true from previous posts.
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    Started removing everything. It wasn't too difficult to get to this point.
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    The tough part was moving the electronic components to the new battery and the fear of getting shocked.
    Toyota should have included a replacement vent tube. My rubber tube was oxidized and sticky.
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    Lots of corrosion on the old battery terminal
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    Packing everything back up and including the old cables. Want to ensure I get my core deposit back.
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    Using my Bolt EV to return the core. It is a tight fit and had to use wheel chocks to prevent the battery from sliding back and impacting the rear glass.
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    This is great stuff so up in New York they let you bring the whole box home not here in North Carolina You pick up the battery it comes out of that big funny box and if you have it with you you can drop your core in that box I try to do that and then the battery goes in the Prius very comfortably and rides right home taking corners like Mario andretti if you desire fits perfectly and then the return battery not sure about the bolt but I know in my volt I would just set it on the carpet in the back it's not going anywhere even briskly driving through the chicanes The weight and the carpet if not really going anywhere might move an inch or two but that's great far as getting shocked goes once the plug is out each side of the battery's holding maybe a hundred volts one side's holding a hundred and the other side 95 or something so shocking isn't really a thing you'll feel a little tingle when you get your sweat on your arm and you touch a bus bar nut and you get it just right you'll feel a little tingling and be like oh there's some power there but nothing to knock you down or really make you think about it You might think it's a bee sting. But good you got it sorted out and that 1430 or whatever was after the deduction they put $3,000 hold on my card and it was 1430 after all the deductions and was said and done and this was at the very beginning of the pandemic it's all posted here I drove a car up there getting 37 miles to the gallon running on the ice engine to pick it up 45 mi away Just recently a buddy of mine paid $16.66 I think after all the nonsense.
     
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    I felt that tingle. It didn't hurt, but I was surprised and overreacted due to my fear. :D

    Any know if the new OEM battery is made by Panasonic? I didn't think to check till I finish putting everything back together.
     
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    Yeah it says so right on the label Panasonic EV a division of what's is the parent company begins with an m it's on the label too some bit of a hullabaloo over whether it's done in China or Japan but whatever It's made to Toyota standards wherever it's made
     
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    Good job replacing the battery yourself.

    That is a good price, about the lowest most people get. That price Tom got was a one-off that has never been repeated. It looked like a clearance price.
     
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    hardly I have 2 2007 prius with 200,000 never once replaced inverter or any other part except a wheel bearing. sprouting un factual bs.