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Fog Lights: Install [Retrofit] fog lights on 2010 Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Prius_in_Paradise, Jun 2, 2009.

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  1. Yes - Would like Fog Lights that are not available with my Prius configuration.

    78.9%
  2. No - I do not care about Fog Lights.

    2.6%
  3. No - But I do not like the rubber "blanks" in the front bumper where the fog lights would be.

    14.6%
  4. N/A - My Prius is configuration V [1229] and comes with fog lights.

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  1. CASUMIK

    CASUMIK New Member

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    YES, THE FACTORY PLASTIC PART #s : 81482-47020 AND 81481-47020, THEY ARE RETAIL 46.06, MY COST 41.41 EACH( I HAVE A COMMERCIALACCOUNT AS I BOUGHT ANDSERVICE MY BUSINESS TRUCKS HERE) I WILL UPLOAD THE COMPLETE PARTS LIST HERE IN REPLY TO HAWKEYE'S SWITCH REPLY. TX, MIKE
     
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    thanks, bear with me hawkeye as i am a bit of an electrical non-whiz. If the wire shocks me it must have current : ). Below is the parts list for everything,my wiring was not done today as the switch we ordered(critical, as we are leaving town for a 4000 mile vacation in the new prius!!)did not arrive today. Should be here tom. Now, my mechanic said the v has a different body ecu and he is not going to diddle too much with that(ok with me). The two wires probably need to go thru that ecu,not absolutely necessary
    but for safety and warranty issues he thinks its best to do do it separately. Messing with the stalk seems a bit risky along with routing the wires thru the steering column etc. Scares me also. Note on the two docs below, the sheet with a single part is the headlight washer switch, you are right that it is momentary, the mechanic felt it was the best bet as it has only two pins(many have four) he is going to make a relay for it. The sheet with multiple parts is correct except for the last entry, this was a switch from a tacoma foglight that turned out to have 4 pins and was too tall for the dash knockout in the prius)no holes will be cut!!!)
     

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    not sure about real fog lights vs factory , i think hella makes factory foglights as well : ) . I have always used mine at night regardless as i felt the car(2007 prius) never had decent dims or brights. The driving lights give me a much wider field of vision,not so much further out.we have a decent amt of fog here as we live along a large river. I wouldnt buy fog lights just for that though.my night vision sucks and at the very least gives me a bit more comfort. I will say that this has become a horribly expensive quest, my ocd has kicked in and it must be finished!
     
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    I will likely use the factory stalk. I'll keep everyone posted when i get around to it. Regarding some of your concerns, I could say that the installation will not need to go through the ECU, and nothign is routed through the steering column. If you remove the underside plastic housing from the steering wheel, you'd be able to see what I mean. There is a small wiring harness UNDER the steering wheel. That harness feeds the switch.

    It also looks like the same switch (based on your part number) is used in several of Toyota's vehicles. This also leads me to believe that the connector is the same.
     
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    i am beginning to stress on this :). We did note that the stalk would plug in fine but as you said it is missing the proper pins. Also you mentioned the harness was short two wires. Does the existing harness(on a prius v not go thru the ecu? If it does then shouldnt the two wires needed for the iv application run thru also? You clearly are very knowledgeable in this area(electrical engineer?) and i am seriously considering your approach(after you have tried it of course : ) ).i would much rather use the stalk also. The momentary switch is out, my mechanic didnt like that idea either. He wants to use the fog light switch from the tacoma(on the original sheet uploaded showing all the parts). The service mgr. Popped off the knockout under the power button and said with a small amt. Of trimming(inside hole) the tacoma switch should fit perfect with no visible cutting or tampering on the dash surface. The switch appears too tall but am going down tom. To take a look. As i mentioned before i am leaving on a long road trip with my family and want this resolved before next tuesday. I think i will have it hooked up with the dash switch for now but will quickly change over if your approach is successful. My mechanic has been very receptive to your posts and the service dept. As a whole is paying attention as they know if there is a viable way to do this it it will certainly be a nice source of profit. Nearly half of their buyers are asking about the fog lights.please keep us posted,also, do you have any resources for blank on/off switches that would fit perfectly?
     
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    ok, was at the dealership again(these guys have been patient receptive). I brought up the stalk again and made the simple argument that the stalk is the same,simply with an on/off switch for the fog lights. I would rather use that than an on/off switch on the dash. Hawkeye, if you have any new insight on this please post. I think you make a compelling argument. The prius v harness does go into the ecu,i looked at the diagram today. My concern is that the 2 wires you suggest we run separate from the harness and ecu might cause a problem. I know nothing of wiring,diagrams etc.. The tacoma switch just wont fit, it would work perfectly but is too large for the knockouts.the service mgr. Is going to talk to the tech later this afternoon about the stalk(they still have it in stock, i thought it was sent back) is it identical to the iv minus two wires or are the pins different?,leaving on tuesday(might just have to have non-functioning lights for the trip, least it'll look good) tx for all your insight
     
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    hawkmoon, please accept my apologies, i have referred to you as hawkeye several times,must be thinking of m*a*sh. Sorry, the state of my brain at this juncture
     
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    Dude! Why post this here if we all know it is in PCShop?! Haven't you read this thread before commenting? Please edit your post and at least reduce it to a one-liner.
     
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    Don't invoke the Prius rage.!
     
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    OK, you are talking about two different things. The package V prius goes through the ECU, true. But your install does not. I understand that at the end of the day, your install requires a switch. Two wires that need to touch one another for the lights to go on.

    The factory stalk does this. The existing harness fits it. The harness is simply missing two pins.

    I posted the part number of the pins kit (about 11 bucks). One would simply have to crimp two of these pins to the ends of the two wires that you want to run to your tacoma switch. Once the pins are crimped on, they simply slide into the existing harness and click in. I also posted the pin locations.

    Viola, factory fog switch, no ecu, no cutting, etc. Let me emphasize that the stalk fog light switch is just a switch. When you turn the dial, the two pins you add to the connector will touch. This would serve the same function as the Tacoma switch.

    By the way, I'm interested in where the dealer tapped into for the power to the fog lights.

    If you have any questions, let me know.
     
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    thanks for all your help, i believe they are tapping the headlights(dims) as the law here states you cant run the fogs alone or with the brights. I am printing your post for the dealer as it simplifies the last 7 pages of discussion. If they arent willing to use the v stalk and it truly will work everything except the foglights, then i will install that and run the remaining two wires myself(after returning from a much needed vacation)i go in tomorrow for a pre trip oil change and hopefully they will wire the lights. Will post tom. Eve with the results,again , thank-you!
     
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    THE LIGHTS ARE INSTALLED AND WORKING PERFECTLY!SOME VERY INTERESTING SURPRISES. BAD NEWS IS IT COST ME A BUNDLE. THE SERVICE MGR. FIRST, THE WIRES FOR THE PRIUS V STAL;K ARE THERE,NO MODS,NO PINS,THE V's STALK WAS PLUGGED IN, NEXT ,THE HARNESS RAN INTO THE ECU WHICH APPARENTLY IS THE SAME ON THE V AS IT IS ON THE IV,WOW.NEXT TO THE JUNCTION BOX, STILL NO MODS,EXTRA WIRES,PINS, NOTHING. THE RELAY IN FACT IS IN THE JUNCTION BOX AND IS READY TO GO. HERE IS THE MOD,MY TECHNICION HAD TO DRILL A VERY SMALL HOLE IN THE FUSE BOX(JUNCTION BOX) AND ROUTE THE WIRES FROM THE RELAY TO THE FOG LIGHTS. THE CONNECTOR HOUSINGS THAT HE ORDERD A WEEK AGO WERE NOT CORRECT,HE HAS SENT THEM BACK AND WILL CALL ME WITH THE CORRECT PART #. I AM LEAVING FOR A 2.5 WEEK VACATION TOM. SO HE MADE ME TWO CONNECTORS FOR THE TRIP AND WILL PLUG IN THE CORRECT ONES WHEN I RETURN. I WILL POST THE HOUSING CONNECTOR PART # HERE WHEN I GET A CHANCE AND AM NEAR A PUTER(I AM ON VACATION : ) ) FOLOWING ARE SEVERAL PHOTOS,ALSO A PARTS LIST NOT INCLUDING THE NEEDED HOUSING CONNECTORS(PLUG IN AT BACK OF FOGLAMP).ITS DONE THANK GOD!!!!
     

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    hawkmoon, thank you for all your help,clearly toyota is planning to have this as an option.here are a few more docs
     

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    That's great news. I'm glad to hear it went well. I'll be ordering the parts in the next week or two, so hopefully it will be a straight forward install. I'm glad you ended up with the stalk switch.
     
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    I checked over the wiring diagrams while looking at the connectors and realized my mistake. I was looking at the connector the other way around.

    The fog light wires are in place. Pins 3 and 4, green and blue, are in the connector. The stalk switch is plug and play.

    I traced them back to the ecu, and there is even a 15 amp fog light fuse. i could not find the relay, but I didn't have much time.

    So with the new information you provided, it looks like we have a much better udnerstanding of this install. But there are still some holes.

    I am not sure what conenctors were used to plug into the oem fog lights, and I am not sure what wire was run. I would guess that a wire had to be run from the relay inside the car to the engine compartment. that was probably the small hole that the dealer referenced.

    I will also add that the part number for the factory fogs seems identical to several other models inToyotas recent lineup. This may mean some salvage yards might have the part, and may also mean that a OEm direct-fit 3rd party fog light for the camry, rav4 (and a few others) may also fit plug and play style. This could be a substantial savings.

    Casumik, Do you think you could find out the relay location, where the wire was run from, and what conenctor they used for the fog lights themselves? It would really complete the picture for me.

    I'm happy to take pics and document my install when the time comes, but the more I know now, the better informatio we can pass along.

    Thanks for your help, and i'm glad you didn't give up on the factory stalk.
     
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    Hi Mike:

    So glad to see that you got the lights in and are off on vacation!! Could you take a moment of your time (when you get back :)) to further elaborate on the 'mod' that was done as per above? Was this 'mod' done only because of the wrong part not being here? The reason I ask is after following your 'adventure' I would like to do this as well, but as I am going to be leasing mine I wouldn't want to do anything to upset Toyota Leasing. But those lights sure make such a difference to the looks. The big mod I would love to do is get the NAV for my vehicle (if I did that I would definitely buy it in the end). Only one model comes with Nav in Canada - Technology Pkg. (Advanced Technology in the US) which includes Nav and Solar Roof plus the other 'tech' goodies.

    Anyway, look forward to your next update. Hope you enjoy your R & R.

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    Update:

    I ordered the following parts:

    8414047130 - Headlight dimmer switch (listed as Prius, all, w/hid 2008) I understand that this is oem the fog light version that comes with the 2010 package V.

    8148247020 - cover fog lamp LH

    8148147020 - cover fog lamp RH

    The covers are also oem covers that come on the package V

    I did NOT order the fog lamps themselves. As it turns out, the part number I have for them is the same part number for many many other Toyota cars - including the 2007 Camry. (At least, that is my understanding). I plan on buying an aftermarket directfit replacement kit for the 2007 camry. Just check out ebay and you'll see why. They have kits from 35 to 60 bucks that all look to include the same OEM style directfit foglamps. If it works, it would easily shave $200 off the price. If you use the included fog light switch isntead of the factory stalk, you could shave another 100 bucks off. it looks like all you really NEED to get is the two fog light covers and a kit. That would put a budget install at 120 bucks.

    By the way, the three parts I ordered came to about 190 bucks delivered. I still need to order one of the kits on ebay.
     
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    I'm still waiting for my parts to arrive, but i came across this site with some good pictures of an aftermarket fog light kit for the 07-09 Camry (which I believe to be the same as the 2010 prius).

    Fog Light Pictures and notes

    There are some good pictures of the fog lights that came with the cheap kit - available for 60 to 90 bucks. They look identical. I am holding off on buying the kit until I receive the OEM plastic inserts.
     
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