1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Excessive oil consumption?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by dnaeye, Mar 1, 2020.

Tags:
  1. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,248
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    That’s a pretty strong argument, for correlation between clogged Exhaust Gas Recirculation and head gasket failure. (y)
     
    ASRDogman likes this.
  2. ASRDogman

    ASRDogman Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    6,431
    3,415
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    And NOT driving it like a Formula 1 car! 65mph 95% of the time highway...
    And since using the epr stuff in the engine, twice, I think I've reduced the oil consumption.
    I was at about 3000 miles after the oil change and it was only down about 1/4.
    Then I "needed" to drive 70mph for a while, a few times, and it went down more.
    I've only put 1 quart in, in 7000 miles. "IF" I can keep it under 70, I think I can go without
    adding any oil and just do the oil change at 240,000 miles.

     
    mikey_t and Mendel Leisk like this.
  3. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,248
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Sustained hill climbs likely increase oil consumption too.
     
    mikey_t likes this.
  4. AZBill

    AZBill Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2021
    26
    24
    0
    Location:
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    It's darn impressive, that's a lot of miles and sounds like yours may not have had the same care for the early part of its life. I had heard that the earliest of the Gen 3's (2009 overseas and 2010 in USA) had some supplier quality control issue with the piston rings. Not sure how accurate that information was, but if true means the high miler 2010's running like yours are a feat. Mendel posted all those ring and piston part numbers in a different area on PC and seems to indicate they figured out a better design in parts by 2015.

    75% of my miles are highway speed up and back from Phoenix to Flagstaff (150 miles each way) I bought at 52k, driven thus far to about 183k and estimate about 90k has been my cabin trips since 2015. I cruise over 75 mph on much of it and it is a bunch of hills and long mountains grades and people seem to fly on that road. I'm amazed at how capable the power is on that little engine. It is possible I have some usage and not observing it as changing every 5000 miles. But I check the oil and tire pressures every couple of weeks.

    Your at almost a quarter million miles! Sounds like epr might be good stuff I'll try when mine starts using.
     
    ASRDogman and mikey_t like this.
  5. Mdv55

    Mdv55 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2018
    246
    181
    0
    Location:
    Boston
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    That's a pretty brutal climb. If speeds and hills were a large factor in consumption that drive should bring it to light quick. If you have none at that mileage I'd question how much of a factor those really are.
     
  6. ASRDogman

    ASRDogman Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    6,431
    3,415
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I am the 2nd owner. The first owner took very good car of the car and gave me all the paperwork
    from all the service he had done. I am very fortunate!
    I have 376,000 miles on my 2002 Town & Country.... Plus a few hundred thousand each of several
    other vehicles.

    The Prius is a great car!

     
    AZBill and Samuel Williams Jr like this.
  7. Too Old to Clean EGR

    Too Old to Clean EGR Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2020
    15
    11
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    I have noticed that my 2010 seems to use more oil if I am driving over mountain passes and the engine is turning more than 4,000 RPM for extended periods of time. Just commuting, where it rarely gets to 3,000 RPM, it still burns some oil but significantly less. I am also not sure if it is my imagination but the dipstick seems to read higher when the engine is warm than when it is cold, more so than conventional Toyotas.
     
    mikey_t and Mendel Leisk like this.
  8. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,248
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    It would seem very plausible for the engine to consume more oil, in sustained high-rev, engine-always-on scenario.

    I’ve heard similar reports here too, of more oil consumption with flatland high speed.
     
  9. mikey_t

    mikey_t Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2019
    370
    391
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Just to follow up, I got an oil change yesterday and was informed that my engine is actually leaking oil. They've put some dye in it to diagnose, but that might be where my oil is actually going instead of excessively burning. Hopefully they'll know at my next oil change.
     
    ALS likes this.
  10. Grit

    Grit Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2017
    6,174
    4,079
    1
    Location:
    Wilkes Land
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    which color dye?
     
  11. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    Did they NOT tell you to bring it back for an inspection after 500 miles or so ??
    Waiting until the next change might make the actual spot of the leak hard to pinpoint.
     
  12. ASRDogman

    ASRDogman Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    6,431
    3,415
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Dye? In the engine oil? Wouldn't it just be easier to look at where the oil is leaking???
    Gunk the engine, rinse it good, then drive it.
    He didn't give you a hint of WHERE it's leaking oil?

     
  13. privilege

    privilege Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2021
    659
    169
    0
    Location:
    Birmingham
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    higher rpm usage always uses (burns) more oil.
     
  14. privilege

    privilege Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2021
    659
    169
    0
    Location:
    Birmingham
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three

    finding leaks is pretty easy. if they put dye in and sent you on your way, instead of cleaning the engine, you probably are using the wrong mechanic.
     
  15. mikey_t

    mikey_t Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2019
    370
    391
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    It's the dealership that's in my neighborhood, they're known to be pretty good so I trust them. For now.

    He didn't, just said from somewhere in the engine. Also didn't tell me when to bring it back, just whenever I had it in next for service. Also said that the leak wasn't bad so I shouldn't worry about it just yet, but that it's something to be aware of. Maybe that's why he was casual about it.
     
    privilege likes this.
  16. ASRDogman

    ASRDogman Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    6,431
    3,415
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Wellll,,,,, I could be as simple as the oil fill cap seal. Or oil pressure switch.
    Or someone spilled oil and didn't clean it up when they were putting oil in.

    Anytime there is a question of an oil leak, it is best to clean the engine off.
    Then drive the car a few miles and check for a leak. If none is noticed, check daily for leaks.
    Sooner or later you'll see it. And it's best to catch it when it's starting so you can see where it
    is leaking from instead of waiting for it to spread all over making it harder to locate.

    Since you trust him, go back, or phone him and ask him where he suspects it might be. Where did he
    see the oil?
     
    mikey_t and privilege like this.
  17. rjparker

    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    8,510
    5,067
    7
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    These engines typically leak at the timing chain cover on the left side. Its a big job to access so might as well wait until its head gasket time.
     
  18. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    No not always.
    Fresh engine oil is usually transparent in small amounts.
    The "dye" glows under an ultraviolet light.
     
  19. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    Often maybe but not "always".
    At least not at any normal speed.
     
  20. ASRDogman

    ASRDogman Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    6,431
    3,415
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I always found the leaks by looking for the wet oily spots versus the dry area...