Evan's turn for the PHV Prius!

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by efusco, Jul 22, 2010.

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  1. Tideland Prius

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    Hmm..... really? I must've forgotten how the Gen 2 performed (oh no!). I'll have to try that again when I get a chance. I thought it'd still engage in N-G even in S4 on the 2G.
     
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    My observation on the Gen2 is same as MJFrog.

    Please refer to attached chart.

    • started in EV mode and was going downhill.
    • shifted to N at 1:21'45"
    • exceeded 65 km/h at 1:22'47", but nothing happened
    • at 1:23'59", speed was 102 km/h, MG1 was over 9300 rpm
    • at the same time, thought it was risky to go faster in N
    • shifted to D, the ICE came on and ran at 1000 rpm
    If anyone would like to do the same kind of experiment, please do it at your own risk. :)

    Ken@Japan

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  3. efusco

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    "Frank" came by and picked up the PHV today. Really enjoyed my 8 days with it. Other than the trip to St. Louis, I had only one round trip (from home, to whatever destinations, home again) that came in under 99.9mpg...and it was still 97.6 or something.

    I want to thank Erica, Doug and the entire PriusTeam for the opportunity and I hope the experience will allow me to help answer questions about the future PHV Prius. I would have enjoyed the chance to have the car for a month or two to see just what kind of tank to tank MPG I would/could get in my regular life, but it seems very obvious that it will be over 100mpg...my impression is that it would be approaching 200mpg many times.
     
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    I did something similar in my NHW11.

    With the ICE off and in "N", I descended a hill and reached 50 mph (80 km/h.) MG1 rpm was well in excess of the 6,500 rpm previously discussed. But in my case, I decided to brake to ~40 mph (64 km/h) before shifting into "D". I wasn't sure if starting the ICE would reduce or increase MG1 rpm so I took the 'brake safe' approach.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  5. linuxpenguin

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    Hey PHV tester guys,

    Discussion in another thread got me wondering--does the PHV allow you to cool the cabin from the plug? I guess I always just assumed that it did but now I'm curious. I know it's suppose to have some ability to remotely turn on the air conditioner via the key fob, but is it possible to run the air conditioner to cool the car while its plugged in (since the A/C unit requires use of the inverter / converter assembly and all)?

    Additionally, are there any provisions for /heating/ the cabin / ICE / whatever else you want to heat off the plug in the winter (for those of us that get snow)?

    Andrew
     
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    Yes. The Prius PHV can activate remote AC while charging using the grid power.
    The Prius PHV has heat pump AC for cabin heating.

    Ken@Japan
     
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    Nifty. Can the heat pump also run (I assume) while the vehicle is actively charging to use grid power to heat?

    Andrew
     
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    I'm not sure, but I believe it has heating capability while grid charging.

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    Yes. It allows for pre-heating and pre-cooling of the interior while plugged in.
     
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    This video confirmed it starting at 2:40. Does anyone know the weight distribution for PHV Prius? It should be closer to 50:50.

     
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    it's not that much closer to 50/50... for some reason, 58/42 is floating around in my head (I think the regular Prius is 60/40?)
     
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    That is very exciting news Evan. To have a car that can positively do 100mpg and with a optimistic 200mpg would be pure nirvana! Now, if Toyota can just keep the price within a sensible range.
    :cheer2:
     
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    Worth noting - once you enable remote A/C or remote heat, the charging function stops, even if the battery packs are not completely full. Even after remote HVAC turns off, charging does not resume.
     
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    Is it a bug that needed to be fixed? What is the justification of doing that?

    Can you set a time when you want to enable the remote A/C or remote Heat? Say, 10 minutes before heading to work.
     
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    Not a bug, per say, but a design limitation, IIRC. Sadly, I can't seem to find it in the materials where we were told about it - maybe the owner's manual? If someone else doesn't confirm prior, I'll confirm when I have my turn for the PHV next week.
     
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  16. Tideland Prius

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    It's stated in the literature ;).
     
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    I had an opportunity to see the Japanese PHV inspection sheet.

    weight JP PHV JP model G
    1 front 850kg 830kg
    2 rear 640kg 530kg
    3 total 1490kg 1360kg


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    Standard Prius (61:39) to PHV Prius (57:43).

    Well, I was right. :D
     
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