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Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Oct 22, 2015.

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    People unfamiliar with Dr. Judith Curry may be interested in her website:

    https://judithcurry.com

    Which posts her writings, those of guest authors, and many blog replies.

    One would be remiss to not also mention:

    https://www.realclimate.org/

    Speaking for the other side. As it were.
     
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    Curry’s Climate Etc. posts do as much as one could find to emphasize climate-change uncertainty, while retaining mooring to objective scientific research. So it certainly serves a purpose. The payoff there (or ‘tell’ as Bob would say) is in its’ comments section where folks really ‘out there’ argue with a few climate mainstreamers who are willing to engage in vituperation. At least it accomplishes a goal of demonstrating how much people disagree (I suppose that is a goal, but other might disagree).


    Real Climate posts do as much as one could find to emphasize climate-change certainty, and also criticize web talk by folks really ‘out there’. I find their comments section less interesting for being moderated (or censored, if you prefer) and dominated by climate mainstreamers. But there I am more likely to see mention of climate-related publications I had missed. As such, it supports my need for a literature-searching assistant.


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    One new to our climate discussions found Stossel’s interview of Curry to be remarkable. C’mon man, work upstream, at least as far as Daily Caller! More than a decade of churn came before. No effort made -> no reward.


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    I find this to be a fascinating ecosystem of conflicting information and tribal confirmations, with troubles on both ‘sides’. But I gotta tell ya, it did not start a few days ago.
     
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    The Judith Curry element alone has been brought up here in PriusChat dozens of times, going back to 2010:

    Search Results for Query: judith curry
     
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    I have no problem with Judith Curry's science, insofar that none of her publications (I've read) contained statements or conclusions that should have been dismissed at the journal review stage. System is designed to admit ideas so that they can be further tested later.
    I have no problem with Judith Curry's company CFAN. She sells products and people buy those. If customers are dissatisfied, they would go elsewhere.
    I have some problems with Judith Curry's Congressional testimony, because in my opinion she has made misstatements of facts, deemed sensible because of her academic qualifications. But hey, it's Committees' work to find purveyors of facts, and those who can dispute non-facts.
    I have some problems with Judith Curry's Climate Etc. website. It provides a platform for authors and blog responders to mislead readers. But hey, internet should not be fettered unless threats against life or property are made or succored. Caveat lector.
     
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    On the subject of scientific journal publications getting far 'out there', today I see:

    https://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/fulltext/S0169-5347(23)00189-1

    This journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution publishes important things, some of which might not be accommodated elsewhere. Y'all might peruse.

    This article has ways (I have not read them) to define 'environmental users'. If I tweeted (X-ed), I am not sure that it would seem appropriate to identify or filter or characterize my tweets or Xs. But through all that I say let the journals join the Internet Bazaar. Let readers decide if it becomes too wild.

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    Attempting to tie up my multi-post package here, there are scientists having trained for years, journals looking for prominence, or subscriptions or money other ways, and the internet. All seek to promulgate ideas. All 3 interact in ways that changed when internet arrived.

    I only know the environmental area well. COVID dragged me to understand 'medical' better. 'Science' has informed the human enterprise for a short time, it you think about it. Our current triangle of understanding and dissemination is new and unsettled. It might ever remain so.
     
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    Environmental DNA describes genomic sequencing for organisms living in some place. It has been extracted in many different ways, now including clay bricks:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-38191-w

    Modern bricks are heated in ovens so no DNA from those. Unfired bricks are common in many places.
     
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    One of each. One lands extremely hard, the other lands softly.

    On the former, I've feeling both schadenfreude for Putin, and mourning the loss for all the non-partisan scientists associated with or looking forward to the data from it. It would be so much better if science could be entirely unlinked from politics.
     
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    Chandrayaan-3 has a rover. Not clear to me that it is planned to function after lunar illumination period (14 is earth days). Quite cold during the dark fortnight. Batteries don't like being that cold.
     

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    on the contrary, that was fascinating. why such a big increase under biden, to help the economy?
     
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    IEA is global not USA. I think USA increase is tied to the IRA. Not yer retirement account :)
     
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    I'm not sure I'm going to remember exactly who and / or what IEA is, but one thing occurred to me while skimming was that CN is not really a developing market any longer, I'd think, anyways.... So to understand when and where the major players are (developing markets) of this article are (in my mind anyways), one would have to understand who and what the Developing markets aRe (as defined by the IEA statistics) and how those Developing are intertwined within the Global Markets and Economies as a whole ( or the BIG picture ) if you like that phrase better.
    History - About - IEA
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_3166_country_codes

    2 cents or so on this Big Picture Item
     
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    Russia - Ukraine war?
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    Russia has been described as a gas station with nuclear weapons.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Japan JAXA has a moon probe waiting to launch. Main aim is precision landing (with 100 meters) and will report some observations from surface, if it lands as hoped. No rover or digger. Landing site intended is about 13 degrees south of lunar equator so this is not going polar.

    For fuel economy, it will take 4 (?) weeks, which apparently include Earth swingbys. Hypermiling 'out there' is all about near misses.
     
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    I thought I had written about Panama Canal recently. Original version used Lake Gatun water to fill the locks, with all of that draining to the sea (on whichever side). A total loss system.

    Upgrades completed in 2016 created larger locks accommodating larger ships, and storage ponds so that 60% of water could be recycled after each lock cycle. Also the water-supplying area was enlarged.

    Even so, Panama has years with diminished rainfall (including current El Nino year) during which less cycling can happen.