electrolysis, HHO intake charge

Ya prototype is ugly but you have to start somewhere. Wanted to make sure it worked before i put more money into it. If it doesnt work on your prototype your doing something wrong. Let me know what kind of testing you did.

I dont care what laws your looking into but i made it and tested/use it... the system works.

 

Prove it. You are the one making outlandish claims. The responsibility is yours.

Take it to an independent testing lab and generate the data so that it can be reviewed by qualified engineers.

Your say so just ain't good enough. And, it never will be.

 

Independent dynamometer testing would be a good start.

Tom

 

As someone in PTS posted a few weeks ago, if the HHO scheme works and produces more energy than supplied - Why are you wasting your time on automobiles? Build a powerplant and supply electricity with it. You'll be rich.

 

I'm confused...

Which product uses domestic snakes instead of those cheap foreign snakes?
Snakelin or SynSnakelin XMPG™?

ZC1

:-P

 

Snakelinâ„¢ is the original, patriotic choice for true Americans.

The other one is the cheap foreign ripoff.

 

You are implying an efficiency beyond unity. That is impossible

 

No, that is called "condensation" which is typical of a lot of hot exhaust gas. There isn't anything magical about it, consider the average 250,000 BPD refinery will consume 10 million gallons of process water

What you have to consider is EROEI - Energy Returned On Energy Invested. That is the true "cost" and that is why hydrogen is such a dead end with current technology

If your gadget really did work, why isn't GM putting one under the hood of every pickup and SUV they are trying to sell? GM is drowning in red ink, seems to me if such a gadget did work it would be a ticker-tape parade for the inventer

I also don't believe in weird conspiracy, unless you want to discuss ignorant folks who don't understand basic science. I do a lot of consulting for the petrochemical industry. If there was a magic way to boost operating efficiency of a FCC catalyzing cell, especially on the order of +30%, the entire industry would have an orgasm

 

Jayman, I assume the poster is talking about water being formed during the combustion of hydrocarbons. As you have stated, that water will be in vapor form, and some will condense in the exhaust system. That said, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with fuel economy and fanciful add-on devices.

Tom

 

You're handicapped by having some education in chemistry and physics. This stuff is a lot easier to understand if you just pretend you dropped out in the 10th grade.

 

Yes, and if you took thermodynamics and understood some of it, then you are completely disqualified from further discussion.

 

Tom

I'll be the first to admit I just returned from a business trip and was *very* very tired. Had a nap and realized I could have worded that better

The poster gave the impression that somehow it was ok or not harmful for a motor to "burn" water, as evidenced by the condensation dripping from a Crown Vic tailpipe(s).

jay

 

Ah, that was my mistake. All that silly computer science and chemical engineering. Shame on me, now I must do heavy drinking to repent

 

With this setup do you pass emissions testing?
What MPGs does it get without this system and with the engine tuned correctly?

 

Richard

I was wondering about that too. Of course, most of the rice rockets I've seen are already blowing blue smoke anyway ...

 

Don't kid yourself. At the rate things are going in the US - and Canada - give it a few more years and folks like us will be burned at the stake. I'm sure you've noticed that a large portion of our society appears to be regressing

 

Many of these devices have you remove or tamper with the oxygen sensor, making the engine run overly lean. That's one way to get a short term boost in fuel economy.

Tom

 

If you want to know where we are headed, visit your local WalMart.

 

I gathered that was where you were going. I was just clarifying that water is produced when you burn hydrocarbons.

Tom

 

Ugh. A lot of Americans are so proud of their stupidity, they wear it like a badge of honor. We have a TV show here called "Are You Smarter Than 5th Grader", where people demonstrate that they aren't, to the delight of the audience.