Electric Porsche!

Discussion in 'EV (Electric Vehicle) Discussion' started by daniel, May 14, 2009.

  1. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    oooohh... well that would be a bummer. so this forces you to either accelerate very slowly in high gear for freeway driving or whine it out in low gear at freeway speeds??

    wow, no wonder he has an overheating problem.
     
  2. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    15,232
    1,563
    0
    Location:
    off into the sunset
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I understood you perfectly. I guess it takes a certain kind of mind. :p
     
  3. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,519
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    A 1K Zilla would have been adequate, at about half the price, but since the Zillas are not being made any more, there's some question whether I could even get one. There were some possibilities, but nothing definite. The 2K Zilla will be even better, and so when I was offered one I jumped on it.

    Availability was the deciding factor.

    Crude innuendos may be very effective when they come from someone women are attracted to. But then you'd probably have the same success if you just said "Looks like it might rain." I am not good at crude innuendos, and coming from me, they would just be taken as insults.

    Yes, installation will be a big job. Fortunately, the guy selling me the controller will install it, and he knows what he's doing.

    A transmission allows a motor or engine to operate in a narrow range of rpms while the car operates at a high range of speeds. It turns out that my motor (unlike some other electric motors) has a narrow torque band, so it needs a transmission.

    With sufficient power, I could leave it in a higher gear. This would waste energy, but save the transmission. An acceptable trade-off for me for in-town driving when range is not a problem but frequent stops would otherwise mean a lot of shifting and some grinding of gears.

    The builder took out the clutch. He told me I'd have so much power in fourth gear that I'd never need to shift, except to back up. I can shift okay from second to third and from third to fourth. (I've never had it in 5th or 6th gear.) I have a hard time shifting from first to second when the car is moving, and I have a hard time downshifting, though I seldom need to, except when stopped, when it's easy.
     
  4. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Good point, I should have considered that more carefully

    As far as shifting ease, would changing the transmission fluid to something a bit "slicker" or synthetic, help? Just wondering. I know with some stick shifts, they go from being "notchy" and grindy, to smooth, just by changing to a different transmission fluid
     
  5. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,519
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    I'll ask about that. I'd never heard of it before. I imagine the Porsche mechanic would know about it. Sure would be nice to be able to shift faster and easier. Come to think of it, I wonder if the builder drained the transmission and neglected to re-fill it. Would I be able to shift it at all if that were the case?

    *******

    Three people reacted to my car today, though it was a fairly short drive:

    Someone at a stop asked how many miles to the gallon I got. I replied "It doesn't use gas at all." Later, someone driving alongside me put his head out the window and cupped his hand behind his ear, and when we came to a stop, he said "I've heard about those." I don't know whether he meant electric cars in general, or if he thought it was a Tesla, or if he thought Porsche made EVs. Lastly, at another stop, someone said, "Sure is quiet!"

    All three were men. Maybe I need to turn gay. :confused: This car does not attract the notice of women. Or else they see me in it and figure even an electric Porsche is uninteresting if I come with it.
     
  6. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    It would grenade pretty quickly if there was no oil in there. Without a clutch, you have to pretend like you're driving a dump truck or semi truck, where the clutch is just used at a dead stop

    Once you get the hang of it, you can a heavy duty transmission by feel alone, keeping the rpm's just right. I've never tried that in a light duty stick shift, it may or may not work depending on the synchronizers

    I'm pretty sure by now, you'd know which way you swing. I always thought that was the whole point of going through the teenage years
     
  7. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,519
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    I drove a dump truck for the sugar beet harvest. I did use the clutch for shifting gears, though IIRC the electric transaxle was used without the clutch.

    Note that an EV is different from a gas car in that when you take your foot off the pedal the motor is free-wheeling with virtually zero resistance. It's almost like a disengaged clutch. It can be spinning, or stopped. It does not care.

    I like girls. I'm just saying that since girls don't like me... :pout:
     
  8. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    It's all about confidence. You have everything going for you except that mate. If you could work on that OR just decide you don't care then you would be set. Girls like confidence and/or a challenge. Seriously, it sounds stupid but it works. One way or another you need to develop that confidence or else you're doomed. That is why Jayman insists you just go get some, somewhere, anywhere. It is a good confidence builder. :) When you feel like a pimp you become the pimp. Some of the most arsehole guys I know get tons of women because of their attitude and self confidence and they are often poor and ugly as %$#@. lol
     
  9. Fibb222

    Fibb222 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2006
    1,499
    99
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Daniel, don't listen to these bozos. No point being an nice person and preying on a weak and pitiful dumbass babe, just to get some. That's a road to the dark side.
     
  10. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I'm just trying to keep it real. :)

    Here is a great excerpt from a great movie...

    You can change the names in that script to Jayman and Daniel if it makes the reasing easier. :p
     
  11. a_gray_prius

    a_gray_prius Rare Non-Old-Blowhard Priuschat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2008
    2,927
    782
    0
    Location:
    IL
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    N/A

    This post is full of WIN. I think that people relating womens' attraction to men with nice cars is a bit of confusing the chicken with the egg - it's not the car, it's the type of person who buys certain types of cars that they're interested in.

    Back the the car:
    Redline MT-90 is popular trans fluid with modders. Maybe ask around about that.

    related thread: How often do you change your Transmission fluid? - LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community

    http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?p=123351

    I'd really like to see how your ride does on the 1/4 mile. Might want to bring it by the drag strip sometime?
     
  12. brad_rules_man

    brad_rules_man Hybrid electric revolutionizer

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    716
    76
    0
    Location:
    Effingham
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    EPIC post. HAHA You guys are all awesome. =) Hold in there Daniel, when you find the right one it'll be even more special. I think you sound like an excellent catch. I have the same problem. I tend to be so extremely open minded and have all my own little eccentricities it makes it VERY hard to find someone.
     
  13. Rybold

    Rybold globally warmed member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    2,760
    322
    3
    Location:
    Southern California
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Awesome car ! I'm jealous. My idea car would be a Toyota HSD applied to a Porsche Carerra. The idea is that it would get similar MPG to the Prius when I'm just driving it around normally, but if I get the urge (or need) to "drive it like a Porsche," I will have the ability. I keep waiting for Porsche to come out with such a vehicle, but I seem to keep waiting and waiting and waiting. As a result, the 2010 Prius is the next vehicle that will be in my garage ... but if Porsche can even promise a prototype hybrid before I walk into the Toyota dealer and negotiate for a 2010 Prius, then I will have to delay my decision.

    Nice EV !!!! That car is awesome! :)

    Note to Daniel ... if you hit 39 and you still haven't found "the one," hell, you might as well try eharmony and match dot com because you only get one life. Don't let your life end without finding someone. Although I have had better luck since I was in high school, a friend of mine actually met his wife on eharmony. I went to his wedding last month. They get along really well. I guess with eharmony, instead of posting something for people to browse, the computer keeps your profile set to private and a computer matches you with someone. I think. I don't know. I used to be the guy in the bar looking for drunk chicks. Today, I don't want anything to do with that lifestyle. But they are right that it builds confidence. And, confidence is key. In the wild, the male is the protector of the family. This is why females naturally go towards the guys that seem most confident. It's genetic. That's why the uneducated, tatooed, weightlifter guy with no brains attracts girls. It's because they are genetically wired to seek out the guy that is most capable to protect them in the wild (watch wild animals on the Nature channel on tv sometime. haha.) BUT, if you are lucky to snatch an educated or intelligent or geek (there are some pretty geeks out there) type girl, they use their brains to figure out that the tatooed jerk is a path to nowhere and then they look elsewhere. But you will always need to be confident. Envision yourself as desirable, and you will be. If they don't bite the first time, ignore reality and keep the vision that you are desirable. I guarantee you that eventually, given some time (probability/statistics - the right girl might not be at the bar that night - dont let your confidence down - she, just wasnt there that night), some female will be interested and your mindset that you are desirable will give you the confidence that will show her you really are. Good luck.

    You need to get a tshirt made that says "I drive an electric Porsche" :D
     
  14. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,519
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Bullshit. It's about being good-looking and not having a facial tic. And it's about believing the same religion she does, or being willing to lie about it. It's about being the life of the party.

    Thank you, Fibb.

    It's not a dragster. There are some electric dragsters that can leave any gas car in the dust. Mine is not one of them, though it will improve when it gets the 2K controller.

    You can get a combination of efficiency with power in an electric car, but not in a gas car, even a hybrid. The gasoline engine just cannot go both ways. Either you have power, or you have efficiency. The tiny, low-torque, high-efficiency Atkinson-cycle engine in the Prius makes it efficient, but rules out Porsche-like acceleration. An HSD-based car capable of giving you Porsche-like acceleration would not give you efficient fuel consumption. Note that the Camry Hybrid is faster than the Prius, but burns more gas.

    I'm 60 years old, very soon to be 61. I'm on Match-dot-com and I get ZERO response.

    I was going to try eHarmony and I ran into a really stupid problem: eHarmony requires you to select exactly ten (no more, no less) items from their "Must Have" list and their "Can't Stand" list. I would have to lie!!! because there are not ten items that I "must have" or that I "can't stand" from their lists. If you only select 7 or 8 ot 9 they will not let you continue!!! And you cannot invent your own. I could think of ten different ways to say that I cannot stand smoking, but they won't let you do that. I'm too damn honest for eHarmony.

    Sorry. I'm not very good at wrong. If any woman ever does decide to settle for me, at least she'll know what she's getting: Me, nothing fake.
     
  15. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    I don't "prey" on women. They usually walk up to ME and start the conversation. If that conversation ends up horizontal, who am I to complain

    Quite frankly, I'm nothing to look at. Just ask qbee42
     
  16. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Match.com FTW!

    I've been there off and on for years that place is a goldmine for dates. Anytime you're feeling down just log in and it's like instant confidence. lol

    Seriously. It's a good way to put yourself out there without the insecurity and/or sheer terror of face to face dating. It's features allow you to be a nice guy and look for the right one or just be a plain man whore. It's totally up to you.

    Daniel, I'm poor and I have am generally well recieved. I also have some pretty ugly friends who seem to attract a lot of pretty girls. I've seen you in pics and more importantly on video. You're a good lookin' guy in more of a cute way than macho but girls have such varied tastes in men that you are safe. ;) Just gotta work on the confidence. Trust me mate! I could almost be classified as a professional dater. I am just too damn picky and have made bad choices in breaking up with the good ones before I realized how good they were for me.
     
  17. jayman

    jayman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    13,439
    641
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    I'm honest enough to say I'm not "good looking." Some real babes always seem to be clinging to the arms of men ugly enough to derail a freight train just by looking at it. Nothing to do with looks

    I'm also not what I consider to be the "life of the party." I can be aloof to the point of being mean about it. When it comes to women, I'm generally not picky at all
     
  18. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,519
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    I have been on match-dot-com for years. I get ZERO!!! Well, not quite: I do get the occasional scam email, always from Russia, always some gorgeous 20-ish woman who says "I love you." Now, you know damn well that a drop-dead gorgeous woman in her 20's does not fall in love with a 60-year-old guy. So if we exclude those, I get nothing. When I write to women found on match-dot-com they don't even give me the courtesy of a reply. Okay, once (just once!) I did get a "No, thank you" from a woman I had written to.

    I know a woman who married a guy she met on match-dot-com, so it can work sometimes. But it ain't working for me.

    Telling someone to "just have confidence" is like telling a penguin to "just get in the 747 and fly it." When you have 45 years of perfect 100% rejection, you don't have confidence. You approach a woman knowing damn well she's going to say no.

    *******

    Today, for the first time in the 3 weeks I've been driving the Porsche, I got a positive reaction from some girls. They were in a car that pulled up alongside me, and they thought the car was cool. When I told them it uses no gas at all, they liked it even better. They told me they were graduating today. From high school. Not exactly prospects.

    In the grocery store parking lot, a couple who sell electric scooters admired the car as well. The guy did most of the talking. I think guys like the Porsche more than women do. Their scooters go 30 mph and have a 30-mile range.
     
  19. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2003
    19,891
    1,193
    9
    Location:
    Nixa, MO
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    +1 on Justin's comments. Daniel, you may not believe it, but confidence goes a LONG way. There's something about getting laid the first time and you look at women a little differently and they sense it. Believe it or don't, it's true.

    And I agree, you're not a bad looking guy, a facial twitch may be an initial turn off, but I've never seen anything that a good personality won't get you past when you get to know someone.
     
  20. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2006
    18,058
    3,076
    7
    Location:
    Northern Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    That pretty much describes me, except for the part about religion. ;) As for religion, I can disagree with people and have them still think I am on their side.

    You need to live in my village. At 61 you would be considered jail bait. Our population tends toward the mature side.

    Make it up. Making up answers for a bullshit question isn't lying. If they can't provide good questions, you are under no obligation to provide meaningful answers.

    Tom