Electric Only!

Thank you for making my afternoon. I've never met someone who has a bigger case of choice-supportive bias in my life. Cracking up over here. Literally. (well, not literally)

 

I fly model airplanes - a lot. All of the main places I fly them are off-road.

 

Flat hard pack is not off road. Otherwise, I drive off road every day through my alleyway.

Renting is always an option, and the majority of households have more than one car. People with children are unlikely to have both their cars be minivans.
BEVs will not work for everyone, but they can work for more people than many believe.

 

but he has done his research....

 

Please read the original statement I answered:

"I do believe 95%+ of the people could use one tomorrow for all their travel needs."

My claim is that is not even close to true. But don't mistake it for "BEVs can meet 95% of the travel needs for most people", which is a similar sounding, but entirely different statement.

The Prime's Ev range meets my needs for 95% of my trips (perhaps more). However, a 100D wouldn't meet "all [my] travel needs" simply because I occasionally go places it couldn't go. If you add in the places it could go, but not in a practical period of time, that's even more trips.

My analysis of the NHTS data says most people go somewhere a 100D couldn't go, at least once in a while. Around here, that's almost everyone because we have so many places in the mountains that are nowhere near any fast charging system, and winter saps Ev range very severely.

 

Every time I do something that my cars can't handle, I walk the few blocks to the rental place and rent what I need.

 

That is an extreme hassle and expense for the types of trips I like to take. I've looked into it and it can cost upwards of $1,000, plus you have to find a way to get to and from the rental place with all your stuff (mine is about 8 miles - far beyond walking distance).

Definitely not worth the hassle or expense.

 

This conversation isn't worth the hassle or expense anymore.

 

Thank you for attempting to tag us! Unfortunately, it seems to have tagged the wrong name, but we're happy we found the topic!

@HPrimeAdvanced we offer a station map (and app) also. I would be happy to answer any questions you might have about using it or getting a ChargePoint card.

 

If I went on Jeep trips once a year I would probably rent one. If I went on Jeeps trips once a month I would probably own one.

Same for hauling large cargo, if I did that regularly I would own a truck or SUV. But since I rarely haul anything that doesn't fit in my spacious Gen 2 hatchback (or my even more spacious '92 Camry wagon) I just rent a U-Haul van as needed, which I rarely have to do.

If I only drove 100+ miles once a year I would own a BEV and rent a car when I went on a trip. However I exceed that range often enough that I am only considering plug-in. In theory I could probably make a BEV work even on long trips but it would be a hassle and put a dent in the enjoyment of the trip and add unnecessary anxiety.

I could also sell my car and ride the bus, walk, bicycle and carpool most places, and Uber the remainder. Maybe I'll do that then I can criticize all of the selfish, lazy people driving around town by themselves in their BEV.

 

An imposter??
Or did somebody else in the company create an account and then forget about it?
Both accounts list "Campbell California" but Chargepoint Team appears to have never been used??
Perhaps @Tideland Prius can help unravel this.

 

if 95% of the people in the US owned BEV's the electric grid would melt from thermal heat trying to supply energy to all those vehicles. We'd have to build a whole bunch of additional nuke plants... then we can all sit back and watch the anti-nuke group the anti-oil group.

 

Guess we are lucky plug ins are only growing faster than hybrids then

 

Yep, because that is the way market share happens...you go from extremely little to 95% overnight.

 

Not true. Have you done the math? I have.

 

Sure, if they could conspire to all plug in and start recharging simultaneously when the grid is already at high stress.

But we already have the means to do that with our electric ranges, electric home heating and air conditioning systems, electric hot water heaters, and electric clothes dryers. IT DOESN'T NORMALLY HAPPPEN!