Electric Only!

Around here, Blink chargers are aptly named because they are usually "on the blink". The parent company is Blink Charging Co. (CCGI) that trades OTC on pink sheets. They don't turn a profit so there isn't much money for repairs & maintenance. They initiated a 1:50 reverse stock split on August 29.

I found three CCC locations on http://www.plugshare.com :

ChargePoint
EV Plug (J1772)
ChargePoint
EV Plug (J1772)

Address
12901 S. Euclid St., Garden Grove, CA 92840

Description
Parking permit required at all time according to signs. There's a total of 4 plugs. All cost $1.25/hour 1st 4 hours, then $3/hour. 2 plugs (right station) used to cost nothing (free). Station is named "CCC GGB". The other 2 plugs (left station) have always cost something. Station is named "CCC GG".

Photos are also posted.

 

For some a BEV works, for others it doesn't - it's good to have choices!
For me, I was seriously considering a Bolt, I have a 100 miles commute (both ways) and typically stay within 60-70 mile range on weekends, however, my daughter is at college 400 miles away, and using any BEV today makes that quite a nuisance of a trip (eg long breaks to charge on the way, finding chargers at destination etc), so I got the Prime, works phantasmic for me.
I will have to say that I am still ver disappointed in the lack of charging stations in SoCal, nothin really where I live (Temecula) and on a couple trips into San Diego, not much to find either ... we have to improve significantly on the infrastructure ... and yes, I use plugshare, blink, charge point ...

 

The data says that number is closer to 5% than 95%.

 

Your definitions are just different. If you are requiring 5 min fillups then you are right. If you are allowing more expensive vehicles and can wait an hour every 300 miles then he is right. Actually it would be more like 99 or 100%.

 

I'm not.

Nope...still wrong. Charging infrastructure isn't even close to supporting that. I've only had my Prime for 7 months and I've already been on 4 trips a 100D couldn't take. My analysis of the NHTS data indicates the same is true of the vast majority of people in the US - they'll occasionally make trips a 300 mile range Ev couldn't make.

 

You stayed overnight somewhere that didn't have an electrical outlet? Yes a Tesla isn't going to work if you are going way way off the beaten path to the middle of the wilderness.

However, the Model 3D might. Could have a real world range of closer to 400 miles. Granted it won't be in people's hands for another year or so.

 

Many times. It's called "camping". However, an L1 charge isn't going to do much if you're hundreds of miles from a Supercharger. I'm going to go somewhere that's 240 miles from a Supercharger with no destination charging at all. It's possible that the route I'll take will be more than 700 miles from Supercharger to Supercharger, with no L2 charging along the route. And that's all highway.

You don't have to go very far, especially in the winter, to be unable to get back.

It's going to be under 300 miles at highway speeds (at least based on my friend's 90D experience of 240 miles maximum in the summer on the highway), and probably under 200 miles in the winter in the mountains. Last year I took a 220 mile round trip when it was -5F during the trip and -15F over night, with no ability to charge.

 

Good for you...you just listed like 0.00001% of Americans' vehicle usage needs. Yes, in those specific situations a Tesla won't work for you. Glad you and I are on the same page.

 

No, like I said, it's more like 95%.

As in, 95% of all people who purchase a vehicle will, at some point during their ownership of that vehicle, take it on a trip no Tesla could go on with current ranges and charging infrastructure. It doesn't have to be a regular trip, just one or more during the lifetime ownership of that vehicle.

 

People have long unscheduled trips too. Last year, 2 weeks after I got my Prius, my wife & son took a trip from Virginia to Michigan and back. They left with a car with only 400 miles on it. They returned with 2000. The trip back was with minimal stops too (no overnight stop), You want to get home quick when transporting a new puppy.

 

That's a horrible reason to buy a vehicle for the 1% of times you need it to do something else. That's the same reason tons of people buy huge pickup trucks, because of that one time they need to move a few items. You realize your Prime can't go off road, right? Should have bought a Jeep so it can truly do every trip someone might want to do. Haha, just bad logic.

 

So in a Tesla it would have taken a few hours more, correct. If you really need those precious few hours a Tesla isn't for you (yet).

 

I agree, which is why I bought a vehicle that can cover 100% of my needs, not 99% which would necessitate me buying and owning another vehicle.

A Model 3 would be okay for about 65% of my trips (the fact that's it's not a liftback is a big problem for me). A Model S 100D would cover more than 98% of my trips. A Prime covers 100% of my trips. I've only had it for 7 months and I've already taken it on 5 legs where you couldn't have followed my in a 100D.

 

For about half, yes. For the other half, you wouldn't have made it without a tow truck.

 

So you never need to go off road? Must not.

Well, just like you don't need to go off road, many drivers don't need to go to the middle of the wilderness far away from interstates. For those drivers a Tesla works 100% of the time.

 

They already left early morning and arrived after dark. When they got home, all occupants were at their wits end. A few hours more would have been a big deal, yes.
They stopped mainly for the puppy and one quick fuel stop, IIRC.

 

I take my Prime off-road dozens, if not hundreds of times a year.

 

Oh boy. I assume it can fly, too?

 

If I need to go off road (to our pond for instance) I take our tractor. You use the proper tool (vehicle) for the task, An EV is not currently the proper tool for long trips.

 

No, just what it carries.