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Discussion in 'Prime Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Hybrid Hobo, Jun 5, 2018.

  1. Hybrid Hobo

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    There you go making assumptions again...which couldn't be further from the truth. Good thing you chose the name Sam Spade, as you're definitely no Columbo.

    Oh yeah, way to go on insulting all twenty-somethings with the blanket term millennials. It's a derogatory label. Since you love negatively labeling wide swaths of the population, I'm curious as to how you refer to people of color? How about homosexuals? And those of different religions or political beliefs? I'm sure you have equally hate filled, bigoted labels for these types, too, yes?

    Thanks for poisoning what was (before you chimed in) an informative, helpful, positive thread. Your negativity, bitterness & snide attitude have managed to taint the fine efforts of your fellow forum members. You should be quite proud!

    I promise to ignore any future replies you make, as not only am I a bigger person than you, but it'll be a pleasure for me to picture you twisting in the wind with frustration when you get no response. So go ahead, get the last word in, and dig an even bigger hole for yourself.

    Thanks for chiming in :)
     
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    priuschat has an ignore user button.;)
     
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    Thanks, Starship! Are you a nomad, yourself? You seem to know a lot about the lifestyle, which is why I'm asking. And thanks for keeping it positive ;)

    I like the ride-sharing idea, I'll look into it. I know a lot of those Uber and Lyft drivers enjoy the job, and some can make really good money.

    Not sure about moving up the ladder to a newer Prius, as my funds are very limited, but no matter which one I get, at least I'll be in the club.

    Thanks for the info!
     
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    Well it seems you are very committed to executing your plan to become 'The Hybrid Hobo ". So what good would it be for me to say that the overall plan doesn't sound the best to me?

    So assuming I'm not going to talk you out of doing it, let's just say the challenge with a $4000 dollar budget would be getting the reliability you absolutely need.

    IMO once you get towards the decade old, or 100,000+ mile range, you simply cannot guarantee reliability. Especially with a Hybrid Battery which is a non-moving parts, chemical based component.
    I have said this to others, just shopping in the same budget area, without the added parameters involved in this situation. And that is, you cannot really guarantee or predict the life of the Hybrid Battery.
    Depending on what you end up with? The hybrid battery could last 1,2, 5 years or more...or it could fail on the very first night. So I usually tell people shopping in this price range and age and mileage range, to be able and willing to deal with the potential cost of a failed hybrid battery. Because that is the inevitable risk of failure you take buying an older used Prius for $4000 or less.

    Again IMO, the hybrid battery in most cases, works and works well, until it fails. Sometimes it gives some warning, but the most common refrain is that " My Prius was working fine, until this morning....." Then the owner is faced with the big hybrid battery question.

    Given your situation and budget I wouldn't want to take that risk. But if you do? I suppose you just hope you get a older Prius that does have enough Hybrid Battery life left to meet your needs.
    But in general and to anyone, I would say, don't buy an older used Prius unless you have the resources to deal with the "potential" worst case scenarios.

    Whatever happens, best of luck. Maybe someday you can write a book entitled " The Hybrid Hobo " . I hope it doesn't have a chapter about the day the Hybrid Battery died.
     
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    I considered the option for my summer vacations, and still fantasize doing the entire North AM in a Prius when I retire.

    When my oldest was only 2 yo and we could barely afford it, we'd travel by car camping and sleep in camping areas and 24 hour store parking lots) Prius was not yet available back then) Youngest came along and we upped to a minivan which I mcgyvered the last 2 rows into a convertible bed. 2 minivans after and they got too big. So I caved in and bought a 24yo Class B motorhome for $4,800. We still sleep in truck and rest stops along the way to save money. We've hit all the major National Parks all the way to the West coast this way (Badlands, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Arches National Park, Bryce Canyon etc). About the only place we haven't visited yet is the Midwest tornado alley area lol.

    As to my previous and current Prius, they both paid for themselves (and some) via sidelines like courier and ridesharing.
     
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    Appreciate the info. For the record, in case I'm coming across the wrong way, I am certainly not looking for people to praise or agree with my plan. There have been a few here who've said they didn't think it was the best idea, which I have no problem with. What I DO take offense to is when someone gives a smart alecky or condescending reply, which is why I took umbrage with the poster above.

    I agree with your assessment 100%. Buying an older, high mileage vehicle is a gamble. If I could afford something newer I'd obviously go that route, but I cannot.

    Will I wind up eating crow if I buy an older model and it's a lemon? Sure, but again, my options are pretty limited at this juncture.

    To be clear, I'm not looking for the perfect vehicle, a 10 out of a 10. I'm just hoping to get one without any major defects, which will last me a couple of years. Which means the old saying really applies here...

    Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
     
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    Again Best of luck.

    My concern is you simply will not have the immediate financial resources to execute a plan for the worst.

    Because it seems to me the ONLY reason you are considering a Prius over a Mini-Van, Camper, or any other vehicle is to take advantage of the Hybrid Synergy Drive's gasoline/electric climate control.
    The risk and the danger is that advantage immediately disappears if the Hybrid Battery fails.
    But you know this.
    And it's your risk to take.
    I can't tell you your plan will work, I also can't tell you it absolutely won't work.

    Honestly, if I planned on living in my vehicle for extended time, with projected limited resources, I'd probably look at buying a pretty plain Chevy Astro Van. Then invest into insulating it, and making it as comfortable and secure as possible.
    But there are probably a million holes and risks in that plan too.....
     
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    I guess I'm not surprised that you've had some advice to stay out of a used prius- apart from the noise on going nomad vs. something else altogether.

    I'm sure I'll take some heat for saying this but as a relative newbie here I have found prius owners to be one of the most risk-averse groups I've ever encountered, and let's face it- trusting an old Toyota to be more than transportation carries a lot of risk any way you slice it.
     
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    See, THIS is freedom. I think it's wonderful that you took your kids on the road, as seeing things outside of their everyday experiences is very enriching. So too meeting diverse groups of people on your travels. I'm sure those memories will live with them forever.

    What you mentioned is pretty much my plan. I'll be boondocking at truck stops, casinos, Walmarts, etc., with the occasional stay in a campground or similar place. I would LOVE to try free dispersed camping, but unfortunately, we do not have any BLM land here in the NE. There are many woodlands however which allow camping, but even these go for about $25 per night, and most don't have hookups...which is why I'm so gung-ho on the Prius.
     
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    Again, there's nothing you said that I wouldn't agree with. It's very good advice. Fortunately, I will be working while on the road, so starting a rainy day fund will be a high priority.
     
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    Risk adverse? They might or might not be, but I genuinely do understand their viewpoints & concerns. I think it would be foolhardy of anyone to tell a person that an older, high mileage vehicle is a good buy, which nobody has done here. Most have said to tread cautiously, which is the proper call in this situation, so I appreciate their concern and frankness.

    Question...If the battery dies, can the car still be driven? And if so, for how long? Only asking if it should ever come to that. Also...

    Do the batteries typically tend to die abruptly, without warning, or do they normally peter out over time, after spitting out numerous warnings via the dash icons?
     
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    Sound like a plan. I don't have much of advices to add to what's been presented here already, but I wish you the best of luck. Out of curiosity, I have a question. Someone mentioned earlier about registering your car without permanent address. How are you going to do it? Similarly, how about insurance on the car? Can you buy an insurance without permanent address?
     
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    I know that many RV'ers use mail drops to have their parcels sent to, or, if that doesn't work, one can always use the address of a friend or loved one, and they can hold the mail till you pick it up, or forward it to you every so often. I'm sure this or something similar can be done for insurance purposes.
     
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    Sure you can. It's guaranteed to fail...... sooner or later. :whistle: :D

    I've been used prius shopping on and off for the past few years and once you start talking lower end pricing, you HAVE to figure battery replacement costs into the equation unless it has been replaced with a new or newer, used Toyota pack. Those are very, very rare birds.

    On a $4k budget, I suggest finding the latest model year first (09), overall condition second, and miles last (gonna' be high anyways). A salvage title in the NE could mean hurricane sandy flooded but it's usually a repaired wrecked.

    GOOD LUCK!
     
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    That's why I say you can't predict or guarantee THE LIFE OF....
    IMO there is no real way to predict WHEN...that failure might happen.
    Yes, of course we all should know batteries will eventually, inevitably fail.
     
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    Give it up.
    He doesn't want to hear any practical advice.

    Throwing your last ~$4000 at a used hybrid car......to live in.....is monumentally stupid.
     
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    Hey, I think it's a great possible book.
    The adventures of living in a Prius?
    The Hybrid Hobo sounds better than "The Lincoln Lawyer".

    Or you could go with...Homeless Synergy Drive....
     
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    Thanks, FOTO. My plan is to avoid dealers, if at all possible, and only buy from private sellers. This way I save money and get the same car that a dealer would be charging $2,000 or $3,000 more for.

    I believe the chances of finding a decent car via a private party is higher than going through a shady dealer, where cars with flood damage, prior accidents, etc. are very common, and sometimes covered up.
     
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    Plenty of folks have already beaten me to it, and are currently living in their Prius'...story of my life, lol. Seriously, if you weren't aware, it's actually a "thing" now, which is how I stumbled upon the idea.

    To be frank, I don't know why more people aren't doing it. The price of rent/mortgages is insane, and many people have become working slaves/zombies just to keep a roof over their head.

    There's a certain freedom in going small, and living as simple as possible, but I'll get off my soapbox now :)
     
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    And on the lighter side might I suggest watching "The Other Guys," an otherwise throwaway comedy featuring a running gag concerning homeless people in a prius, if for no reason other than understanding the jokes when you hear them recited.
     
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