Featured Consumer Reports: The Most Fuel-Efficient Cars

You have a mistaken impression, I am afraid. Those people are there to protect you and your access to freedom. They are the brave in the land of the free.

 

I remember giving a couple a ride to a night spot in my Gen 4 and apologizing for the low mileage the car was getting as we were going up hill at 75 mph. The male part of the couple just laughed. 47 mpg was way beyond his wildest dream in their Mazda (maybe a 3).

 

i think (hope) bill was being sarcastic.

i also noticed a 'uge' confederate flag flying over rt95 in south carolina? new found brazenness? sorry to subvert your thread.

 

Alcohol mixes with gunpowder the same way it mixes with gasoline -- very poorly.

But that is a different subject than gun racks. Which, in turn, is a different subject than flags.

(Is this thread locked yet?)

 

no, but the movers will be arriving shortly.

 

The averages on Fuelly line up closely to the EPA combined.

 

maple syrup anyone?

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maple syrup anyone?

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Is that why the French, known for their love of wine, were so easily overtaken by the Nazis? It's generally a known fact that generalizations are not always accurate.

I'll show my self out ...

 

Let's not forget ww2 started in 1939.

 

I think the CU reporters need to go for a ride with me to see how it's done. It's not what you drive, it's all about how you drive. They just aren't motivated to try to achieve greatness. Those of us on this site are.

 

I like the way Consumer Reports tests. Their achieved fuel economy is generally worse than advertised, so you get a much better idea of what it's like in less than ideal conditions. Since I tend to drive in a lot of less than ideal conditions, their results are very useful.

If fuel economy was derived from users here, it would probably be way higher than most average people could achieve, and thus a useless statistic except to show best-case scenario.

 

I'd like it if CR did both. Keep doing the solenoid operated two position throttle operation they and most drivers do. And also drive with some intelligence like we do. Then compare the annual cost difference and blood pressure readings.

 

my 1st prius DIY job was adding the OEM Toyota electric block heater (ebh, not a stock item in the US) for the very purpose of diminishing short trip cold starts. Even helps on 70° f mornings.
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In a similar vein, using Tesla's prewarming function, the car simultaneously heats up its own traction pack.
Makes no difference - ICE, Electric, even people .... all function better if they're not freezing. I grabbed this screenshot - web page that lets you input varying speeds & temperatures to show how much difference a little extra warmth & slower speed can make on battery propulsion ;

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No, best case would be Waynes Gerdes; xcel at Cleanmpg.com.

I suspect most people here would be on the above average side at Fuelly.com. The average result for the car models I've checked, including the Prius, are really close to EPA combined. The testing rules revisions that happened in 2016MY might lead to the average going above the combined rating.

CR would be among the low results of the Fuelly spectrum. Which itself isn't bad. What is bad is that their test results for a car aren't going to be comparable to another model, because they don't control for temperatures, wind, nor fuel blend, and the entire point of going to them is too get a fair comparison of different products.