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Community organized troll ban button?

Discussion in 'PriusChat Website Questions' started by 2k1Toaster, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

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    Ok, them maybe it was slowturd and his stinky turdles that were stinking up the place. :eek:
     
  2. JimboPalmer

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    There was concern that the Spam Hammer on Ars Technica would be used to suppress unpopular opinion. (reality has a liberal bias) The Powers That Be let it be known that using the Hammer on non Spam would be Bannable. There has been little abuse. And no repeat abuse. [​IMG]
     
  3. SageBrush

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    The rare troll I want dealt with is one who week after week posts FUD and misinformation that I and others feel obliged to waste our time refuting so that newcomers are not befuddled. Garden variety trolls go away when ignored.

    PC does not suffer from group-think or mob mentality so I doubt a troll button would be abused, but I do not think it necessary.
     
  4. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    The newcomers will figure it out. Stop wasting your time. I did. ;)
     
  5. efusco

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    I think our concern is the trigger happy forum member who sees a post from someone asking "why should I choose a Prius instead of car X" or something like that that we often see associated with real trolls, but just as often are asked innocently by those less knowledgeable and seeing information. You suspend those innocents and they're going to, rightly, be pissed and get a pretty negative first impression of our site.
     
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  6. xs650

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  7. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Exactly, xs. Or should I say xkcd? ;)

    Let it go, and walk away.
     
  8. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    I've reported this thread as spam.

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  9. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

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    Ironically, I got involved on that daily blog for Volt to dispell the misinformation. They got really angry too, not the slightest bit happy that someone with so much real-world data was setting the record straight. But the webmaster knew it kept them honest and the banter generated lots of traffic. So, I wasn't ever banned. Of course, always being polite and resisting the temptation to follow their red-herrings really help... being was a quite challenge. Personally, I was truly amazed so much cheerleading could take place with so little actual design information to support the claims. In the end, that hype was proven unworthy of the attention it got and they've been cautious about what they say to repeat it from happening again. So, I feel like I came out ahead, having learned quite a bit about Volt through observation of the design as it progressed.

    From a troll point of view, they dropped far more bait than I ever bit at. Their FUD harmed their own credibility, despite me being the outsider. It's a roll-reversal usually overlooked due to newbies assuming veteran members would never attempt such a thing. To my delight, the moderators on the big GM forum actually turned on those doing that, since it was bringing down the reputation of the website as a whole.

    Long story short, neither banning nor ignoring works for some. There has to be a variety of approaches working in concert with each other all at the same time... a multi-front anti-FUD effort. Turns out, that's a good participation opportunity for newbies anyway. They get a chance to sound off and contribute their experiences.
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  10. macmaster05

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    I think PriusChat should charge $10 for registration. When you reach 100 posts you get your $10 back.
     
  11. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Ten bucks for every 100 posts? Well, alright. :p
     
  12. macmaster05

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    Yeah and its retroactive, Danny owes you $1410. :p

    No, basically have it work like a 1-time deposit. Make that very clear during registration. Trolls will be discouraged. Newbies who have questions or want to say hi will have to stick around. No more threads where the OP doesn't follow up. He or she will want to, in order to get their money back.

    Forcing people to post will seem annoying to them at first, but eventually they'll do it naturally. The idea is more participation and better participation. People will forget about the money and have it back in no time. If they don't, they lost $10 but can always come back at any time.

    That is how you run a business folks!
     
  13. Chuck.

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    I did hear of a site that once they had a fee the trollers left.
     
  14. 2k1Toaster

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    This isn't meant to squash ideas or "right wing wacko"'s as Treb describes in such accuracy. There would be a penalty for abuse (like reporting a global warming denier as a troll when in reality you are just angry that they can't grasp reality). AND multiple people would need to agree. AND the "troll" would need less than X posts. AND the mod would manually review every one just like they do now. But it would be an immediate reaction with delayed oversight instead of just delayed or ignored reaction.
     
  15. Tideland Prius

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    The best response is no response. Just report it and walk away. They'll just blabber amongst themselves. No need to engage.
     
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    I'm pretty sure SageBrush is referring to a former well known (and very atypical) troll who used to post FUD, misinformation, and Prius slander on a daily basis here. I don't think he was referring to anything john1701a was doing/posting on other boards/blogs...

    Typical trolls go away (or are banned?) after a short period of time...
     
  17. hyo silver

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    You're sure it wasn't a currently active poster? Perhaps there are differing opinions on that.
     
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    I have a question for the mods here. When we report a thread how do you get notified? Does it get placed in a forum, or does the report go out in an email blast? Maybe the system currently in place works as is.
     
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    ^ they get emailed
     
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  20. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    On the forum I moderate, we get an email that "user X reported post Y" and it creates a thread in the moderation area where mods post summaries of their thoughts on the "problem" post and a resolution when made. However, this take a lot of time for moderators to go over and more time before a conclusion. Usually it is a "well, let see what they do" type thing and it gets forgotten about. 20-30 posts a day that I have to moderate and sometime you forget a user's past spam stuff unless they are very very memorable.