CAN-View Software Updates

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eflier @ Mar 31 2006, 08:17 PM) [snapback]233175[/snapback]</div>

Norm,

Thanks for entertaining the possibility for 06 Canview systems. I can only speak for myself, if the canview system worked on 06 models and cost an additional 40% because of needed hardware I would not hesitate to get one. For now I am waiting and hoping .....if anyone else is interested in Norm getting this going please post your comments ......

Regards
DmAx

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dmaximum @ May 4 2006, 06:51 AM) [snapback]249646[/snapback]</div>

Norm this seems like the Nav mod thing. I would imagine that there are those who will pay the premium to get CAN View. Only question is are these people enough to justify the cost of getting the parts and upgrades? I would imagine a dollar figure will settle the question.

 

I'm very interested in getting this going. However, I know I'd be dissapointed with lowering the image quality using a composite signal. It's just too noisy for displaying text IMO.

Norm, feel free to PM me. I have a background in computer electronics and a 2006 Prius that we could *gulp* maybe use as a test bed.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(unruhly @ May 5 2006, 06:19 AM) [snapback]250164[/snapback]</div>

If we rule out the composite video input that leaves the new single wire digital input for any 2006 MFD access.
With the format unknown, you need a 2006 Prius with NAV to provide that signal for analysis and then put a scope/logic analyser on it and try to determine if it looks like anything 'standard' like MPEG for which chips might be available.

That experiment is the next logical step. Other engineers have suggested they would look into it on theri own 2006's but I have had no feedback yet.

Feel free to volunteer!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eflier @ May 6 2006, 03:18 PM) [snapback]250790[/snapback]</div>

Dangit! I guess I've got my hand in the air, but it surely isn't very high. I'm worried about messin' up my car.
I do have an 06 with NAV. However, I don't have access to any test equipment and I know nothing about digital video signals. Good time to learn huh? If I had to guess, I would say they are using MPEG-2. Have you seen the cabling that the video is going over? Is it coax or twisted pair? I'm reviewing the wiring diagrams now, but if you have any ideas for other ways of determining the video stream, I'm all ears. Otherwise I'll have to see about renting some test equipment.

 

the "Trip" screen of the up-date today is really cool, worth the time to try it out. Nice to have the throttle graph on it as well.

 

The trip screen looks cool and very practical, very nice improvement to CANview. I have to try it to give my full comments.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ May 13 2006, 01:43 PM) [snapback]254845[/snapback]</div>

not a bug actually. Under the video set-up screen if you have "video 1 (or 2) toggles with AUDIO: YES" then hitting AUDIO will bring up which of those 2 video screens you have highlighted. 2 happens to be the NAV so you see the NAV screen but the NAV isn't on-line until you press MAP so the soft button doesn't work. So either select 1 (for camera/DVD) or press NO and SAVE and the AUDIO will no longer show you any external video screens.

Please note the trip screen is subject to a possible 2% error from machine to machine (depends on the chip oscillator) but it will at least be consistent, so the trip records can be compared from day to day.
This is still a work in progress...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eflier @ May 13 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]255003[/snapback]</div>

Is a % run time for the ICE a possibility or a pipe dream? I also noticed we lost the break indicator for the graphing screens?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hdrygas @ May 14 2006, 09:24 AM) [snapback]255210[/snapback]</div>

I am working all hours to catch up with the PHEV aspects of this, but a % ICE run display seems a suitable thing to add when I'm finally caught up.

The standard CAN-view code ran out of any more flash ROM for changes which is why I had to start a different version for all the PHEV changes. The restraints imposed by all the options in the standard version were making further changes impossible

To make room, I've removed several features, that from customer comments are low on the want list, so yes, several items are now missing. My emails tell me basically to add or at least keep things on the numeric/text screens and that graph screens they could care less about so thats where I stole most space from (and will continue to do so as more space is needed) The Track screen and AVC dump are already gone.

Eventually I can remove all references to PHEV from the standard version which will give me room to put some of the new features in. But not any time soon.
Thats why you now have to choose between versions.

As a totally unrelated aside, one customer with a version 3 noted that he didn't need to remove his CAN-view from the car to re-program, he could just power it from the Prius in accessory 1 mode and leave all the cables connected.

 

maybe it's time to consider doing what other software compaies do. Make the change to drop the graph screens but keep the code listed on your down load page for those that decide to keep the graph screens, those that want the updated features load the latest code and drop the graphs. If the space for new features isn't avaliable then give your customers the option of keeping the graphs and loose the new features. Best of both worlds sometimes have trade offs.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eflier @ May 14 2006, 10:55 AM) [snapback]255241[/snapback]</div>

I may need a V3! I hate pulling the thing taking it apart and programing. I understand and totally support the PHEV project even if I may never get one because of cost, and of course death, mine when my wife finds out how much it costs! I would guess that in the end there may need to be two software versions one for the PHEV and one for the rest of us. I am sure that I will have a PHEV at some point on the way to who knows where! Thanks for considering the % run thing. I think it might just make me a better driver!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ May 14 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]255369[/snapback]</div>

just checked her car and no it starts at 0, did you clear and restart it to see if it wasn't counting in appended mode?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ May 14 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]255521[/snapback]</div>

if you don't clear it, it starts the next trip by adding on to the last one. Norm's currently working on some parts of this. Get ready to flash it again.