Can the temp display be changed to Celsius from Fahrenheit on the 2008 Prius?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(timriley @ Nov 26 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]544326[/snapback]</div>

Actually the salesman was just partially right, but probably did not realize it.

What was failed to be mentioned in this thread (but has been mentioned previously before on PC) is that a Prius programmed to display Fahrenheit "thinks" in Celsius and simply converts the displayed value as Fahrenheit. Look carefully and you will notice that some Fahrenheit values will never be displayed due to rounding of the Celsius value.

I too always thought it was strange the KMh/MPh button does not also change the odometer to KM's and the displayed outside temp to Celsius.

Rick
#4 2006

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(John in LB @ Nov 28 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]545139[/snapback]</div>

OMG, not the ugly American act again. If you're offended by that you forgot to put your skin on this morning. Toughen up a little.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(patsparks @ Nov 28 2007, 06:47 AM) [snapback]545153[/snapback]</div>

This has nothing to do with being an "ugly American". I am just being patriotic to my own country - as you would to yours.

He called Americans backward, stupid, etc... and I find that offensive.

I would expect that if I started demeaning Australians, you would not appreciate it.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(John in LB @ Nov 28 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]545317[/snapback]</div>

I'm an American, so I get to call us stupid and backward, which we are. Any people that spends as much time watching TV as we do; any nation that gets as emotional as we do about which group of grown men wins a ball game, or cares as much as we do about what a movie starlet is wearing; any country that would let a certified moron become president, is stupid. And a country still using imperial units is backwards.

And I feel offended when people who disagree with me tell me I should leave this country. I have as much right to be here as you do. But of course, this is Fred's, so we both have a right to offend each other.

But I will concede to you that I should have used the term "resolution" rather than "precision" in describing a scale or instrument that shows finer increments even when it lacks the accuracy to justify them.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Nov 28 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]545352[/snapback]</div>

Oh, pleeeze, Daniel, you imply other countries (which ones???) are "superior, more civilized" and don't have their people getting involved emotionally in organized sports such as soccer and such (at least our fans are not known to die in stadium stampedes or get severely injured at major sporting events by opposing teams fans as in many other EU countries), don't have gossip news rags (try wading through any EU magazine counter and find a "real" paper), or have morons or corrupt politicians as heads of a state (don't even get me started on that one).

I've been to many world destinations and one thing I took from my experiences is although governments and cultures may differ somewhat, people are pretty much the same: they still gossip (about neighbors, celebrities), men talk about sports, everyone is always critical of whomever is in charge (they are always "idiots"), etc.

The US and its people are no different.

Rick
#4 2006

 

"For example, would you rather incur the costs of a transmission re-build down the road? The Prius has no transmission. Etc."

As this is post has turned into a celebration of pedantry then it should be noted that all cars have a transmission. The drive from the prime mover (engine) has to have a means to transmit it to the road i.e. a transmission.

The variety that this can take would fill a history book of automotive design. The only car that might claim to not need or not have a transmission would be a steam driven car were the prime mover (engine) is direct coupled and directly reversing.

Jon the Chief

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(John in LB @ Nov 28 2007, 11:42 AM) [snapback]545317[/snapback]</div>

Our system of weights and measures is archaic and backwards. That's the honest truth.

 

our weights and measures system is stupid, conversion is a nightmare and require rote memory. no "system" to it at all. a bunch of independently contrived measurements thrown together... not quite the truth, but lets face it, its a pretty good description...

as for elevating trivial nonsense and making it important, we have no lock on that... i have said it many times and i will say it again, most american's opinions are swayed by what they see on the nightly news and the priority seems to have been put together by a group pre-teen girls

 

our weights and measures system is stupid, conversion is a nightmare and require rote memory. no "system" to it at all. a bunch of independently contrived measurements thrown together... not quite the truth, but lets face it, its a pretty good description...

as for elevating trivial nonsense and making it important, we have no lock on that... i have said it many times and i will say it again, most american's opinions are swayed by what they see on the nightly news and the priority seems to have been put together by a group pre-teen girls

 

I once rented an Olds Cutlass that I discovered had been switched to metric. I switched it back, and that really confused the rental agency -- the odometer also switched, so I was returning it with fewer "miles" than when I took it out. They just asked me to estimate how many I drove.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(viking31 @ Nov 28 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]545378[/snapback]</div>

Thank you.... As Paris burns for a third day....




<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Nov 28 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]545352[/snapback]</div>

Thank you for putting a little humor into it... Now THAT's American....

 

take a chill pill people...like i said..we all gonna die....

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(John in LB @ Nov 29 2007, 05:12 AM) [snapback]545317[/snapback]</div>

You may not realise it but the rest of the world either get tired of or are amused by the flag waving antics of the "patriotic American", it isnt pretty either.
Quite frankly I would most likely join in and laugh along. Why take it all so seriously? That's what starts wars you know. Remember the immortal words of the guy who said "All men are created equal", he said all men are created equal, do you think Americans are somehow superior to everyone else?

Australia is a dump, the cities are crowded and the heart of the country empty desert. There isn't enough water and it gets way too hot. Oh, and there are way too many kiwis here! <Kidding> We even have Tasmania where brothers and sisters love each other in un-natural ways but that's a whole other thread.

Remember Australian soldiers adopted the name Rats Of Tobruk when they were refered to as rats during world war 11

Parts copied from http://www.convictcreations.com/history/tobruk.htm

Oh and 30 years later we adopted the metric system so we wouldn't be thought of as backward and slow. (just to keep on topic a bit)

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(viking31 @ Nov 28 2007, 12:55 PM) [snapback]545378[/snapback]</div>

I'll give you that. People all over are pretty confounded stupid. But that doesn't excuse us for taking jingoism to an extreme. Or for refusing to adopt a rational system of weights and measures.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jon the Chief @ Nov 28 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]545419[/snapback]</div>

That's a symantic quibble. Sure, every car "transmits" the power somehow from engine or motor to wheels. But every automobile on the road at the time the Prius was introduced had a system that changed the gear ratio between engine and wheels by an extremely complicated mechanism in which different-size gears were engaged and disengaged, and this mechanism was one of the most failure-prone components of the car, and very expensive to repair. The Prius has no such system. Nothing ever disengages, and the power split device is a differential, which is a component that almost never fails. Thus the Prius has replaced the most failure-prone component, which is also extremely expensive, with an extremely cheap component that virtually never fails.

It is quite reasonable to say that this radical departure in drive-train design has no transmission in the conventional sense.

Even your steam car example would "transmit" the power from engine to wheels by some sort of rod or shaft or belt or chain. And of course, steam is not the only way, or even a particularly good way, to avoid a transmission by your definition: Some electric cars (including my Zap Xebra) have no transmission. The best would be one with an electric motor in each wheel.

 

I agree with the patriotism bit. Keep in mind the person who said "All men are created equal" (Jefferson) kept slaves, so the joke is, some are more equal than others. But your point is valid.

We are a country like other countries and I will try to improve it in my small way, but I don't pretend that I am better than a Canadian or an Aussie or a Bangladeshi, etc. because of where I happened to be born or the color of my skin. I respect our flag but if others want to burn it to prove a point, I'm not going to get bent out of shape. That's the proper method of disposal actually, not like the actress on TV after 9/11 complaining that she had put flags flying out of her car window, but would forget and roll down the window and eventually lost several flags on the interstate, to be driven over by other cars. That's not patriotism. A valid way to respect our soldiers is to bring them home safely - I wouldn't attack other people's patriotism because their approach differs from mine, but I would try to educate them on the validity of my beliefs, and be willing to listen to theirs.

But America does have several things going for it. A good set of founding fathers with a progressive system of government for the time. Good resources and lots of usable land. People who are willing to step up to a problem, volunteer and organize to solve problems rather than wait for the government (that has been recognized from Tocqueville to modern times).

But people who think health-care is only for the wealthy, or scare-mongering is okay when dealing with terrorism but not global-warming, or it's okay for the President to secretly go around the Constitution's limits on privacy (which is what got Nixon out) or to hold people indefinitely without charging them of a crime (Gitmo) despite our Constitution and the UN's agreements, then I have a problem.

Okay, I'm ranting here, a little off topic. But these are bigger issues than Fahrenheit vs. Celsius (neither scale is "American" after all). The German Mr. Fahrenheit picked 0 and 100 as the max and min temperature that he typically saw in a year's weather, Mr. Celsius picked 0 and 100 as the freezing and boiling point of water. They don't have sub-units, like quarts to a gallon, so one's really not more logical than they other, except Celsius typically goes with countries that adopted metric measurements and Fahrenheit doesn't. Even the metric system was developed by the French partly for political purposes, although those have been lost in time. If we really wanted to be logical about it all, we wouldn't use a double 12-hour system with base-60 minutes and seconds. What's up with that? That's archaic and backwards (pre-Christian Zodiac and Sumerian traditions), yet we all use it (except some countries like Ethiopia and I think several countries or ethnic groups at least traditionally start the new day at sunset, not midnight).

 

What it really means is: "I recognize that my slaves are equal to me." Except that Jefferson didn't. He believed that Africans were inferior to Europeans. So when he said, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." he was lying because he didn't consider that self-evident at all, or even true.

Politics??? You are discussing politics in FHOP. Does this mean this thread now must be banished to FHOPol?

 

Jefferson & slaves

Well, we're definitely getting off topic now. But Jefferson did stop the slave trade (as far as imports) in 1807, banned slavery from the northwest territories (what became Indiana, Ohio, etc.) and apparently wanted to free his own slaves, but he was constantly in debt and couldn't afford to. According to the wikipedia article on Jefferson:

In his first draft of the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson condemned the British crown for sponsoring the importation of slavery to the colonies, charging that the crown "has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere." However, this language was dropped from the Declaration at the request of delegates from South Carolina and Georgia.
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I wonder why Toyota doesn't include an option to convert to Celsius as a standard feature on the Prius? You could easily make that an option buried in the MFD menus. No physical button to manufacture, can easily bury it under a some obscure menu to avoid accidental switches but it's there for people who want it - boom! Everyone's happy! I think that'd be a nifty little feature.